Comments on: Last chance to renounce US citizenship for free! http://cominganarchy.com/2010/07/02/last-chance-to-renounce-us-citizenship-for-free/ Speak Victorian, Think Pagan Wed, 21 Nov 2012 23:12:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.7.1 By: jay Crosby http://cominganarchy.com/2010/07/02/last-chance-to-renounce-us-citizenship-for-free/comment-page-1/#comment-394675 Sat, 31 Jul 2010 18:19:15 +0000 http://cominganarchy.com/?p=9621#comment-394675 After serving in the U.S.A. Army, and witnessing treason, committed by high ranking officials clear to Capitol Hill, including Black Operations. Myself , being harassed by the Federal Governments false war on terror , Muslims, but truly a war against its own citizens who have committed no crimes against its countrymen or Government. It is treason being committed by elected officials, both Federal, and State for not holding sacred the constitution of the land! So I have come to conclusion, it would be a wise decision to make plans leave this once vibrate nation. I am truly sicken by its plight to issue in the New World Order against it’s own, as well abroad. I am also aware of the globalistic institutionalization of the union of the Anglos grip around the world through Lies, Illegal wars, tyranny , and taxes! I have never witness evil to this extent ! Washington is truly one of the homes of Satins helpers. Apologies for saying that type of thing about a nation I served in military status honorably! Only to be considered a threat against those I care not to frequent any further shoulder, to shoulder in battle . This is due to their neglect to properly uphold the sovereignty of this nation , and continued ill will of treason against the masses! I am surprised that the masses have not retaliated in the worst of ways, of an all out revolution! I fear for the fall of the Republic, and blood will soon run heavily in the land of Milk, and Honey !

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By: Dexter Trask http://cominganarchy.com/2010/07/02/last-chance-to-renounce-us-citizenship-for-free/comment-page-1/#comment-394652 Sat, 24 Jul 2010 13:00:28 +0000 http://cominganarchy.com/?p=9621#comment-394652 @ von Kaufman-Turkestansky: Even in the case of treason, under INA a person must state that their intent was to relinquish their U.S. citizenship.

@ Fat Tony: No worries, Tony: You can still renounce your citizenship for free by taking up a high-level job with a foreign government, becoming a commissioned officer in a foreign military, or (for the more adventurous) simply enlist in foreign military engaged in hostilities with the United States. You will, however, still have to make your way to an embassy or consulate and fill out the forms to relinquish your citizenship…

@TDAXP: DOS makes final determination of relinquishment of U.S. citizenship, not DHS.

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By: Roy Berman http://cominganarchy.com/2010/07/02/last-chance-to-renounce-us-citizenship-for-free/comment-page-1/#comment-394592 Tue, 13 Jul 2010 17:46:09 +0000 http://cominganarchy.com/?p=9621#comment-394592 Thomas, there are plenty of democracies in the world that don’t even have overseas absentee ballot voting at ALL. American ex-pats do. So really, what are you whining about exactly?

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By: thomas http://cominganarchy.com/2010/07/02/last-chance-to-renounce-us-citizenship-for-free/comment-page-1/#comment-394573 Sat, 10 Jul 2010 06:49:31 +0000 http://cominganarchy.com/?p=9621#comment-394573 If you assume that expats are the most likely candidates to choose to revoke their US citizenship, I would think the taxes they pay (or not if under the cap, but then, they receive few benefits while overseas anyways) would more than cover the $450 ‘processing charge’.

Until the 7mil.+ expats have their own collective representation (i.e., singular voting block), I’ll never believe homeland Americans care about anything outside its borders.

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By: Tdaxp http://cominganarchy.com/2010/07/02/last-chance-to-renounce-us-citizenship-for-free/comment-page-1/#comment-394535 Mon, 05 Jul 2010 20:12:14 +0000 http://cominganarchy.com/?p=9621#comment-394535 Keep in mind that USCIS is self-funded, so without this fee, costs for renunciation processing would be paid for by immigrants.

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By: bobdobbs http://cominganarchy.com/2010/07/02/last-chance-to-renounce-us-citizenship-for-free/comment-page-1/#comment-394531 Mon, 05 Jul 2010 14:38:58 +0000 http://cominganarchy.com/?p=9621#comment-394531 You can probably avoid paying it, depending on the legislation governing societies in the USA.

It is most probably unlawful in the USA for a society to compel membership. Simply issue a notice revoking your membership, and the rules of that society no longer apply to you.

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By: Chris Backe (AKA Chris in South Korea) http://cominganarchy.com/2010/07/02/last-chance-to-renounce-us-citizenship-for-free/comment-page-1/#comment-394526 Sat, 03 Jul 2010 17:10:10 +0000 http://cominganarchy.com/?p=9621#comment-394526 Why not charge the fee that it costs to push the paperwork through? Think of all the paper that has to be processed in the first place – and every hand that has to touch every piece of paper gets paid a more-than-decent wage.

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By: Fat Tony http://cominganarchy.com/2010/07/02/last-chance-to-renounce-us-citizenship-for-free/comment-page-1/#comment-394523 Sat, 03 Jul 2010 03:58:02 +0000 http://cominganarchy.com/?p=9621#comment-394523 >What’s in it for Americans?

I would have thought that one was obvious. You get the right to renounce your citizenship for free in future, if you so desire.

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By: von Kaufman-Turkestansky http://cominganarchy.com/2010/07/02/last-chance-to-renounce-us-citizenship-for-free/comment-page-1/#comment-394522 Sat, 03 Jul 2010 01:47:52 +0000 http://cominganarchy.com/?p=9621#comment-394522 @ Curzon – I am not sure if it’s really spite. It costs money to do the paperwork for this “service”, and perhaps the logic is why should taxpayers be denied the $450 it costs to go through the necessary hoops? What’s in it for Americans? Since there is no particular benefit, perhaps State decided not to subsidize this at all (even where user fees are charged, there is probably some amount of subsidy going on for many other services). Anyway it’s not like you will see much sympathy among taxpayers for those who would presumably complain: “this is a barrier for me joining a foreign army!”… “now my dream of running for mayor of a French village has been crushed by your user fee!”

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By: von Kaufman-Turkestansky http://cominganarchy.com/2010/07/02/last-chance-to-renounce-us-citizenship-for-free/comment-page-1/#comment-394521 Sat, 03 Jul 2010 01:42:07 +0000 http://cominganarchy.com/?p=9621#comment-394521 Actually, I’m not sure what Lieberman’s bill will accomplish. In the bill, amendments to Section 349 of the INA are proposed. The first part of subsection (a) in the current Act says “A person who is a national of the United States whether by birth or naturalization, shall lose his nationality by voluntarily performing any of the following acts with the intention of relinquishing United States nationality -”. The Lieberman bill does not change that. So to be “expatriated”, in this new regime, you would still have to engage in terrorist acts “with the intention of relinquishing US nationality”. Not sure if you could easily prove that.

As is stands, S. 349(a)(7) allows loss of nationality for “committing any act of treason against, or attempting by force to overthrow, or bearing arms against, the United States”. Surely the tactic of terrorism involves arms? Is the intent to catch anyone who uses terror tactics against any country “with the intent of relinquishing US nationality?”

Am I not getting something?

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By: Jupiter http://cominganarchy.com/2010/07/02/last-chance-to-renounce-us-citizenship-for-free/comment-page-1/#comment-394520 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 23:54:51 +0000 http://cominganarchy.com/?p=9621#comment-394520 The citizenship revocation is rather reactionary, but I’m a little more concerned about the precedent that will be set when Anwar al-Awlaki, a US citizen, is legally assassinated by his own government. Not that the guy doesn’t deserve a Hellfire to the face, but it’s still unsettling– I can imagine an unscrupulous future administration reviving the legal justification to employ against other domestic ‘threats to national security’.

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By: Chris Swanson http://cominganarchy.com/2010/07/02/last-chance-to-renounce-us-citizenship-for-free/comment-page-1/#comment-394519 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 23:25:25 +0000 http://cominganarchy.com/?p=9621#comment-394519 That Lieberman thing is eye-rollingly stupid. I can understand the notions behind it, but it seems very silly, especially since as far as I know conviction of a crime isn’t required. I also find myself wondering what they’ll do with someone who was born here. There’s no where they can be deported to, after all.

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By: Bud http://cominganarchy.com/2010/07/02/last-chance-to-renounce-us-citizenship-for-free/comment-page-1/#comment-394517 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 21:30:25 +0000 http://cominganarchy.com/?p=9621#comment-394517 As an American living overseas I worry that sooner or later the US is going to want me to pay taxes there too. Currently I believe they base it on how much time is spent within country. They catch wealthy people who spend half the year in the US and half the year in the South of France or wherever. It is my understanding that a lot of these people have been dropping their US citizenship to avoid double taxation. I have not been back to the US since I left a year ago so currently I am off the hook, but if that changed it would be unfeasible for me to pay taxes in two countries at the same time. A change would force me to either move back to the US or give up my citizenship. I don’t want to do either. Although the US seems to be headed down the bankrupt European socialist branch of the evolutionary tree, Americans are resilient if nothing else. I am reasonably confident the country will at some point pull its head out and return to governance based on the basic principles that made it such a success in the past.

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