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June 27th, 2009

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A Taste of Things to Come?

Radical splinter groups self-financed with drugs and well armed. This may be a small foretaste of things to come in the next several decades.

The killings, last month, have terrified this small town near the Mexican border, in part because the authorities have now tied them to what they describe as a rogue group engaged in citizen border patrols.

The three people arrested in the crime include the leader of Minutemen American Defense, a Washington State-based offshoot of the Minutemen movement, in which citizens roam the border looking for people crossing into the country illegally. Former members describe the group’s leader, Shawna Forde, 41, as having anti-immigrant sentiments that are extreme, at times frightening, even to people accustomed to hard-line views on border policing.

The authorities say that the three suspects were after money and drugs that they intended to use to finance vigilantism, and that they have been linked to at least one other home invasion, in California.

Will we one day see cross-border raids by American militia groups into Mexico? If drug violence increases or some event acts as a catalyst increasing militia groups and bringing more mainstream Americans into it, there may one day be. As the economy continues to decline and federal and state services are cut, at times drastically, we can expect to see not just radical groups like those mentioned in the article, but local communities organizing their own security. It will likely start with those on the edges of bad neighborhoods, or in places where neighborhoods have been gutted by the housing crisis and are going downhill fast.

Readers, what indicators should we watch when considering whether such groups will remain on the fringes or begin to grow? Unemployment rates among young white males? Law enforcement funding? A perceived lack of immigration reform? Some terrorist attack or major event wherein the perpetrators are found to have crossed in in from Mexico illegally?

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Sejo
June 27, 2009
5:49 am
The Italian version of this phenomenon is called «ronde», or patrols, and are one of the last – and most commented on the press – decisions of our current Government. The proposal has been made by the Lega Nord, the autonomist-rightwing, to increase public safety in urban areas. Apart from any consideration on whether public funds should be used to train private – unarmed, for the moment – militias or to hire new policemen and Carabinieri, a trend can be spotted: the extreme rightwing parties and groups form their own recognized, State-financed patrols.
You can see some photographs of these thugs here (http://www.corriere.it/cronache/09_giugno_13/ronde_nere_msi_legge_sicurezza_saia_minniti_0ce89362-5828-11de-831b-00144f02aabc.shtml) and yes, the similarity between theirs and Hitler's «brown shirts» uniforms is voluntary.
Posts about Mexico Violence as of June 27, 2009 | EL CHUCO TIMES
June 27, 2009
6:44 am
[...] this mobilization actually matter? Probably not…You can kill close to 50 infants in Mexico A Taste of Things to Come? – cominganarchy.com 06/27/2009 Radical splinter groups self-financed with drugs and well [...]
Chief Wiggum
June 27, 2009
3:34 pm
From the New York Times article:

“I had to take an oath, and part of the oath was that I couldn’t eat Mexican food,” he said. “That’s when red flags went up all over for me. That seemed like prejudice.”

When they start blowing up Taco Bell restaurants, I'll know they are serious.
Lexington Green
June 28, 2009
3:07 am
When the government refuses to recognize and address legitimate concerns of the citizens, non-government groups take it on. The government can either control the border, or face a domestic insurrection demanding that the border be controlled. You only get Brownshirts when the center cannot get its concerns addressed. The US Gov has shown itself to be expensive, incompetent, politically correct and unwilling and unable to provide the bare minimum requirements of a state: control of the border and domestic security.

This is one blown leaf in front of a large gale coming in. One that is overduel.
dj
June 28, 2009
7:18 pm
Like one of the bloggers here said earlier, Kaplan's vision of privatized and localized security filling in for weak and ineffective governments.
Chirol
June 28, 2009
8:18 pm
Lex: I agree that a big part of the problem is the government's total inability to deal with the people's legitimate concerns. If I lived near the border, I could well imagine joining a citizens group to monitor it, albeit not one of these radical anti-immigration ones. I'm worried about organized crime and terrorist groups like Hezbollah and AQ, not poor people seeking a better future.

An interesting idea I had was for the states themselves to harness this potential and provide some kind of basic training and create 'approved' autonomous groups. It's something I plan to blog about soon.
Alesander Luken
June 29, 2009
12:14 am
Things to come?
Maybe here already...

anyone else see this besides me?


http://cbs5.com/video/?id=37938@kpix.dayport.com
Kirk Sowell
June 29, 2009
4:22 am
I just watched that video. That is scary, but then again people here in north Virginia where I live don't drive into east Washington for a reason. That guy who said he'd been robbed six times really got me; I think he must be insane not to just move.

To address the post - essentially the militant element is always there, but the big coming issue you are raising here is the threat of the government being viewed as illegitimate. People may or may not still pay taxes and vote, but when government loses its monopoly on violence, there is a basic legitimacy issue. True, there are enclaves of instability like Oakland and east DC, but when larger areas come to that point, the conditions are ripe for the otherwise unthinkable.
Durf
June 30, 2009
8:34 am
Chirol: "An interesting idea I had was for the states themselves to harness this potential and provide some kind of basic training and create 'approved' autonomous groups."

Hey now, we Americans love our guns and our right to them, but this "well regulated militia" idea of yours just won't fly. Erm, wait, what?
chirol
June 30, 2009
4:47 pm
Durf: It's similar but not the same as the militia, also different conditions, mission, organization etc. Will be posting on it in the next few days. But it looks like the government is already beginning to think about harnessing ready and willing volunteers, though my plans are far broader.
Bob Harrison
June 30, 2009
6:36 pm
I'm going to have to second Lexington's comments that the source of the problem is our incompetent government. The inaction of the federal government only feeds into every conspiracy theorist's belief that there is a deliberate plot to merge Mexico and the U.S. Of course government incompetence and powerful business interests are much more plausible explanations as to why the southern border is in its current state, but it is undeniable that there are powerful interest groups with a world-without-borders ideology who dismiss all of their critics as racists.
The organized militia movement's of the 1990s lost most of their credibility (among their own followers) after the Oklahoma City bombing killed hundreds of the working-class whites on whose behalf the movement claimed to fight for. OC was also provoked by the WACO incident and (this part is scary) a widespread fear that the newly elected democratic government was about to repeal the 2nd amendment.
As long as A.G. Holder doesn't pull a Janet Reno, the worst we will see of these militants are sporadic lone-wolf attacks. Here's hoping it doesn't go further than that!
kurt9
June 30, 2009
11:46 pm
These people are losers. They are attacking the wrong people. Mexicans who come to this country are simply people looking for opportunity. They are no different than you or I. It is true illegal immigration is a problem. However, this is not the way to go about fighting it. Mexicans are not the enemy.

The real enemy are the limousine liberals in Washington D.C. and elsewhere through out the country. These are the parasites that seek to destroy economic growth and opportunity for the rest of us (anglos, mexicans, anyone else) through massive regulations based on frauds like global warming and the like.