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	<title>Comments on: Ever heard of the Global Crisis of&#160;1873?</title>
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		<title>By: armchairanalyst</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2009/03/14/ever-heard-of-the-global-crisis-of-1873/comment-page-1/#comment-388600</link>
		<dc:creator>armchairanalyst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I understand it the causes of that crisis are the subject of dispute among economic historians...

Other factors that seem similar in that period and our own are, the economic convergence between &quot;late industrializers&quot; and the northern/western European core; the scramble for overseas markets that occurred in that period of globalization as the results of; chronic overcapacity in key economic sectors and a falling rate of profit (towards normal rate) in core markets; market consolidation and financial innovation; and stiffening geopolitical competition for market share.

Key differences in the current period include the fact that the U.S. is on the downswing rather than the upswing in its power cycle; the U.S. has run current account deficits since 1971 as opposed to surpluses in the 200 years prior; China is the rising &quot;continental&quot; power attracting vast quantities of foreign investment as it &#039;converges&#039; towards the economic and technological frontier; whereas the U.S. in the late 19th century had a high marginal product of capital (MPK)  and a low marginal product of labor (MPL) vis-a-vis Europe, China now has a a high MPK and low MPL relative to the U.S.

Can the U.S. export its way out of this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I understand it the causes of that crisis are the subject of dispute among economic historians&#8230;</p>

<p>Other factors that seem similar in that period and our own are, the economic convergence between &#8220;late industrializers&#8221; and the northern/western European core; the scramble for overseas markets that occurred in that period of globalization as the results of; chronic overcapacity in key economic sectors and a falling rate of profit (towards normal rate) in core markets; market consolidation and financial innovation; and stiffening geopolitical competition for market share.</p>

<p>Key differences in the current period include the fact that the <span class="caps">U.S. </span>is on the downswing rather than the upswing in its power cycle; the <span class="caps">U.S. </span>has run current account deficits since 1971 as opposed to surpluses in the 200 years prior; China is the rising &#8220;continental&#8221; power attracting vast quantities of foreign investment as it &#8216;converges&#8217; towards the economic and technological frontier; whereas the <span class="caps">U.S. </span>in the late 19th century had a high marginal product of capital (MPK)  and a low marginal product of labor (MPL) vis-a-vis Europe, China now has a a high <span class="caps">MPK </span>and low <span class="caps">MPL </span>relative to the <span class="caps">U.S.</span></p>

<p>Can the <span class="caps">U.S. </span>export its way out of this?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: McKellar</title>
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		<dc:creator>McKellar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 21:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post.  I&#039;m guessing all those cans made the railroads and their extra track more useful.  What&#039;s our equivalent going to be?  It seems to me that part of the problem we have is that the information age as made the old import/export consumption economy somewhat obsolete, and the mortgage crisis has precipitated an over-due restructuring.  Anything similar happen in 1873?

ARW-Reconstruction was barely planned and half-hearted from the beginning, people North and South were more concerned with fighting their Grand Crusade than realistically solving problems...I&#039;d love to hear some guesses as to what we&#039;re messing up today because of the panic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post.  I&#8217;m guessing all those cans made the railroads and their extra track more useful.  What&#8217;s our equivalent going to be?  It seems to me that part of the problem we have is that the information age as made the old import/export consumption economy somewhat obsolete, and the mortgage crisis has precipitated an over-due restructuring.  Anything similar happen in 1873?</p>

<p><span class="caps">ARW</span>-Reconstruction was barely planned and half-hearted from the beginning, people North and South were more concerned with fighting their Grand Crusade than realistically solving problems&#8230;I&#8217;d love to hear some guesses as to what we&#8217;re messing up today because of the panic.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Joe Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 02:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How interconnected were the German and American crashes? I don&#039;t think they were nearly as interwoven as the various crashes of 2008 -- what we face now is really a global crisis as opposed to a pair of regional ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How interconnected were the German and American crashes? I don&#8217;t think they were nearly as interwoven as the various crashes of 2008 &#8212; what we face now is really a global crisis as opposed to a pair of regional ones.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Alfred Russel Wallace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alfred Russel Wallace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 01:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you. Interesting post, and noteworthy because some attribute the election of Rutherford B Hayes in 1876 to this crash - and that led to the end of efforts for  a realistically desegregated South... with its obvious sequelae 100 years later with LBJ...  Heaven knows what this crash will lead to... but its unlikely to be liberal...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you. Interesting post, and noteworthy because some attribute the election of Rutherford B Hayes in 1876 to this crash &#8211; and that led to the end of efforts for  a realistically desegregated South&#8230; with its obvious sequelae 100 years later with <span class="caps">LBJ&#8230; </span> Heaven knows what this crash will lead to&#8230; but its unlikely to be liberal&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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