The UN resolution allowing other countries to violate Somalia’s territorial waters in pursuit of pirates (as discussed before here) has passed.
The UN Security Council has unanimously voted to allow countries to send warships into Somalia’s territorial waters to tackle pirates. The resolution permits countries that have the agreement of Somalia’s interim government to use any means to repress acts of piracy for the next six months.Somalia’s coastal waters are near shipping routes connecting the Red Sea and the Indian Ocean, and the country’s government is unable to police its own coastline. Consequently, piracy is rife off Somalia’s 1,800 mile-long coast, says the BBC UN correspondent Laura Trevelyan. The resolution was drafted by France, the US and Panama.
Our correspondent says France originally wanted to expand the motion to allow piracy to be tackled in other areas, such as West Africa. China, Vietnam and Libya said they voted for the measure because it only applies to Somalia, and does not affect the sovereignty of other countries. But diplomats say the Security Council action is significant because it is using the force of international law to allow navies to chase pirates and armed robbers.
Security Council envoys are holding separate meetings in Djibouti with the Somali government and the opposition at a luxury hotel on the shores of the Red Sea.
Once you go down this route, what are the chances it will be undone? How long will it be until Somalia could realistically fight piracy as well as the West? I imagine the resolutions 6 month period of validity is a direct result of tricky questions like this.
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Adrian added these pithy words on 03 Jun 08 at 6:58 pmSovereignity belongs to states. If a specific country has a ‘state’ only on little pieces of paper but it is actually powerless, it’s better for the UN to be basing policy on reality than convenient fictions.
von Kaufman-Turkestansky added these pithy words on 03 Jun 08 at 7:51 pmThat’s actually how the security council is supposed to work. Unanimous, a threat that everyone agrees on, measures that don’t go so far as to scare off any one member but that seem to have enough “teeth” to be at least somewhat effective.
It is interesting, however, that we seem to get “accord” among major powers such as the US, China, EU and Russia (and even Libya!) when everyone’s commercial interests are threatened. I see an IR thesis coming…
Chirol added these pithy words on 03 Jun 08 at 8:08 pmAdrian: I completely agree.
von K: I don’t think its particularly interesting. The entire world has a huge stake in the safe transit of goods via the oceans and everyone’s ships from the US to EU to even North Korea have been hijacked and attacked there. It’s simply a rare instance of an issue being that clear cut.
ElamBend added these pithy words on 04 Jun 08 at 12:30 amCommercial interests are what put food on the table, absent any commercial interest, you are a poor starving nation.
von Kaufman-Turkestansky added these pithy words on 04 Jun 08 at 8:16 pmChirol, Elambend, you’re right, but let me be more precise – of course commerce and geopolitics are linked. That is obvious. The replies above also hold that it is obvious (and not interesting) that these interests are the ones that get the whole security council together to make the move to suspend the sovreignty of a state. Indeed Adrian rightly points out that it if the nation state is failed (it’s only on paper) then there is not much to annul. But what we have been seeing in these “gaps” lately is conflicting geopolitical interests playing out at the faultlines, leading to anything but accord at the SC in many other situations of lawlessness. It is interesting that in this part of the world it happens that everyone on the SC’s commerical interests gel, and that one or two powers are not in a position to advance a different agenda. The question that comes to my mind is whether there is no way to develop, encourage, advance or just “rig” these interests somehow to effect change in different situation where a lot of people are in need of protection – Darfour for example (this is not in any way to suggest a parallel with Darfour in the piracy situation; I am just wondering whether commerce can be advanced in such a way as to create equitable SC resolutions in general.)
Michael added these pithy words on 05 Jun 08 at 1:32 amMaybe sit down with the other effected trading powers to hash out an agreement on Somalian sovereignity? I figure a workable solution WE agree upon wouldn’t be welcomed by the Somalis and other Africans—but it would at least get them off their tails and into serious talks.
Kirk Sowell added these pithy words on 05 Jun 08 at 6:09 amThe main problem here – especially from the point of view of the West – is that by asking the UNSC for permission you are implicitly granting that body the right to deny you the right to intervention. France recent did undertake military action in this region without UNSC permission because its citizens and property were abducted. A wise state will engage in such actions only when necessary – as is clearly the case here, since Somolia doesn’t have the power to enforce its sovereignty – but sovereign states have the right to take action to save the lives of their citizens regardless.
ArloRay added these pithy words on 06 Jun 08 at 7:50 pmSo called ‘western culture’ is crumbling away. At the least, it is definitely being forced to examine itself and its purpose. It seems to me that there are an over abundance of people’s (how you define them as nation states or radical ideolagy groups is up to you) who specificaly rely on ‘western “LAW”’ to protect their own ‘lawlessness’. At the same time we bring them into our culture and ‘add’ more laws to opress ourselves to accomodate them. Why they put a six month time frame just shows that in the end the pirates (thieves and murderers) are fixing to only go on vacation and the UN will have once again proven to be useless.
Michael added these pithy words on 07 Jun 08 at 1:03 amNice thing, though, is that laws can and are adjusted to make such maneuvers harder. Witness this UNSC resolution as an example of that: by targeting trading vessels, the Somali pirates got onto the shitlist of all the permanent UNSC members. The only restrictions left for dealing with the pirates are those the World’s navies put on themselves.
bp32 added these pithy words on 08 Jun 08 at 11:19 amSovereignty can come into existence in one of two ways:
1) the community of states in existence can agree that you are sovereign, or;
2) you can enforce that sovereignty through force if necessaryIf there is neither the agreement by other sovereigns nor the ability to enforce your freedom through your own means (e.g. military force) than by definition you are not sovereign.
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