Comments on: I hope to see Japanese military planes over China

By: lirelou

lirelou — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 12:22:51 +0000

Rommel, that was indeed good for a laugh. Thanx…

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ROK Drop Weekly Linklets - 23-29MAY08 — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 01:11:29 +0000

[...] further evidence that Japan can be just plain weird at times.- This story only confirms this. – Interesting debate on whether Japan should deploy military assets to aid the Chinese earthquake relief operations.- [...]

By: Rommel

Rommel — Sat, 31 May 2008 04:45:48 +0000

As an aside, does anybody else find the Wikipedia article on the Vietnam War to be slightly amusing? Specifically, the section on China’s involvement in the war… (and yes I am ashamed to have used it for reference)

“China also successfully captured many Vietnamese provinces, mountains, and cities. After the succesful operation and incursion, Chinese forces gave peace and returned the land to Vietnam. Ever since the war, Chinese and Vietnamese relationships greatly improved.”

I don’t know if I’ve ever seen the Third Indochina War described in that manner. Something about the wording and tone makes me suspicious of the author’s origins…
Well, thats Wikipedia for ya.

By: Rommel

Rommel — Sat, 31 May 2008 04:38:55 +0000

Granted 1970’s history is not my forte, but wasn’t the ping-pong diplomacy with China possible because of the developing Sino-Soviet split? Certainly the Vietnamese Communists still accepted some Chinese help but by the 70’s North Vietnam was primarily under the Soviet sphere of influence (that is, Soviet advisors and hardware eclipsed the contributions of Red China.)
That digression aside, if China and Japan allow this opportunity to pass then it is a damned shame.

By: lirelou

lirelou — Sat, 31 May 2008 04:11:39 +0000

The Americans opened their door to China with ping-pong diplomacy at a time when U.S. backed and advised Vietnamese forces were battling Chinese backed and advised Vietnamese forces. That it worked was likely due to the fact that both sides recognized that it was in their interest. For Japan, a military relief deployment might well be the key to less contentious relations with China. It is worth the try,a and the opportunity should not be squandered.

By: tingbudong

tingbudong — Sat, 31 May 2008 01:41:02 +0000

I too agree that such a move could be a turning point for Japanese-Chinese relations, although this turning point would probably only manifest itself at the top levels of government.

The power of the Red Guard 2.0 should not be under-estimated and resentment of Japan (especially anything military-related) still runs deep among the general population…not to mention the PLA, who would most likely be responsible for any liaison with Japanese aid forces.

By: tdaxp » Blog Archive » China Requests Japanese Military Insistance: Backwardness on both sides nixes the deal

Fri, 30 May 2008 23:42:06 +0000

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Fri, 30 May 2008 14:10:33 +0000

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By: Aceface

Aceface — Fri, 30 May 2008 02:39:26 +0000

And the plan is officially dead.
Looks like Beijing is more worried about internet trolls than those who suffer under the collapsed building.

BTW,on this week’s issue of lefty-Asahi shimbun’s weekly magazine,AERA,the former staff writer and military analyst,Taoka Shunji was mentioning the idea about sending choppers and Osumi class LST all the way up the Yangze to Chingqing.

By: Mark

Mark — Thu, 29 May 2008 20:45:14 +0000

No, disaster relief is overrated. The US has been doing it for decades, and they still hate us. All it does is waste working people’s tax money.

By: ElamBend

ElamBend — Thu, 29 May 2008 14:34:30 +0000

I hope they allow it, to receive such a request and the gesture it represents and then to turn it down would be a tremendous insult.

Of course, American nationalist that I am…how come they didn’t as us, the jerks ;)

By: Shazzb0t

Shazzb0t — Thu, 29 May 2008 10:29:34 +0000

I agree with your analysis of the situation. This could be a great turning point for Chinese-Japanese relations as well as for the legitmacy and future of the JSDF missions.

By: LB

LB — Thu, 29 May 2008 09:43:30 +0000

Ah, the SDP - hopelessly behind the times again. Fukushima Mizuho was fearlessly ranting on the news about how this should never be allowed to happen, how it meant the remilitarizing of Japan, etc. ad nauseum. One of the reporters interrupted with “but China has asked for the SDF to help”, and you could see her brain fry. She lamely tried to recover with a “yes but that doesn’t matter because…”

What doesn’t matter is the SDP. They should have been disbanded years ago (preferably with their former Dear Leader thrown into prison).

By: Younghusband

Younghusband — Thu, 29 May 2008 07:28:01 +0000

Duly corrected. Thanks Tobias.

By: Tobias

Tobias — Thu, 29 May 2008 02:48:38 +0000

Not the DPJ — the Socialists.

To my knowledge the DPJ hasn’t announced its position yet, although I expect that we’ll know by day’s end. Kan Naoto is scheduled to hold a press conference this afternoon, at which someone is bound to ask a question about it. My guess is that the DPJ will support it.