http://cominganarchy.com/2008/04/18/comparison-of-submarine-fleets-in-northeast-asia/ Speak Victorian, Think Pagan Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:35:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 http://cominganarchy.com/2008/04/18/comparison-of-submarine-fleets-in-northeast-asia/#comment-384119 ComingAnarchy.com » Blog Archive » Sign us up for cheap, compact subs too! Tue, 10 Jun 2008 01:01:10 +0000 http://cominganarchy.com/2008/04/18/comparison-of-submarine-fleets-in-northeast-asia/#comment-384119 [...] also points to Asia Pacific as a region with growing submarine procurement.1 I have compared the submarine fleets of Northeast Asia before, and they do indeed put Canada to shame. Cheap, compact submarines is the direction Canada should [...] [...] also points to Asia Pacific as a region with growing submarine procurement.1 I have compared the submarine fleets of Northeast Asia before, and they do indeed put Canada to shame. Cheap, compact submarines is the direction Canada should [...]

]]> http://cominganarchy.com/2008/04/18/comparison-of-submarine-fleets-in-northeast-asia/#comment-383401 Aceface Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:35:28 +0000 http://cominganarchy.com/2008/04/18/comparison-of-submarine-fleets-in-northeast-asia/#comment-383401 These two training subs are still new(only 16 years old when they were moved to training vessel).MSDF has to retire these ships to maintain 16-subs-scheme. Another reason for this short life cycle of J-subs is because of two submarine shipyards exist in Japan,one for Ishikawajima Harima Industry and other for Mitsubishi Heavy Industry.And these shipyards demand shipbuilding without any blank to maintain skilled workers.Defense Ministry can't close down and reduce the shipyard to one for the political reasons,thus J-subs have short lives on frontline duty. These two training subs are still new(only 16 years old when they were moved to training vessel).MSDF has to retire these ships to maintain 16-subs-scheme.
Another reason for this short life cycle of J-subs is because of two submarine shipyards exist in Japan,one for Ishikawajima Harima Industry and other for Mitsubishi Heavy Industry.And these shipyards demand shipbuilding without any blank to maintain skilled workers.Defense Ministry can’t close down and reduce the shipyard to one for the political reasons,thus J-subs have short lives on frontline duty.

]]> http://cominganarchy.com/2008/04/18/comparison-of-submarine-fleets-in-northeast-asia/#comment-383394 Younghusband Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:36:08 +0000 http://cominganarchy.com/2008/04/18/comparison-of-submarine-fleets-in-northeast-asia/#comment-383394 Thanks Aceface, I found the two training subs in _Sekai no kansen_ (2008), 684, pp. 91. The Asashio TSS-3601 and Yukishio TSS-3605. Sweet. Thanks Aceface, I found the two training subs in Sekai no kansen (2008), 684, pp. 91. The Asashio TSS-3601 and Yukishio TSS-3605. Sweet.

]]> http://cominganarchy.com/2008/04/18/comparison-of-submarine-fleets-in-northeast-asia/#comment-383360 Aceface Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:32:19 +0000 http://cominganarchy.com/2008/04/18/comparison-of-submarine-fleets-in-northeast-asia/#comment-383360 Read that in 世界の艦船issue specializing Japan's sub fleet. J-Wiki says it's 16 and one training sub. It seems missing sub is now on duty here. http://www.jmsdf-kure-museum.jp/index.php Read that in 世界の艦船issue specializing Japan’s sub fleet.
J-Wiki says it’s 16 and one training sub.
It seems missing sub is now on duty here.
http://www.jmsdf-kure-museum.jp/index.php

]]> http://cominganarchy.com/2008/04/18/comparison-of-submarine-fleets-in-northeast-asia/#comment-383359 Younghusband Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:23:39 +0000 http://cominganarchy.com/2008/04/18/comparison-of-submarine-fleets-in-northeast-asia/#comment-383359 Aceface, do you have a source for that? According to the 2005 MTDP Japan is officially down the to the 16 subs as stipulated by the NDPG. I sure would like to know about those two extra subs. Thanks. Aceface, do you have a source for that? According to the 2005 MTDP Japan is officially down the to the 16 subs as stipulated by the NDPG. I sure would like to know about those two extra subs. Thanks.

]]> http://cominganarchy.com/2008/04/18/comparison-of-submarine-fleets-in-northeast-asia/#comment-383332 aceface Sat, 19 Apr 2008 01:37:28 +0000 http://cominganarchy.com/2008/04/18/comparison-of-submarine-fleets-in-northeast-asia/#comment-383332 Japan actually has two more subs now used for training,but can be operational in short time. Japan actually has two more subs now used for training,but can be operational in short time.

]]> http://cominganarchy.com/2008/04/18/comparison-of-submarine-fleets-in-northeast-asia/#comment-383330 Younghusband Fri, 18 Apr 2008 22:35:13 +0000 http://cominganarchy.com/2008/04/18/comparison-of-submarine-fleets-in-northeast-asia/#comment-383330 The numbers include everything and anything the IISS can count. For example a number of the Chinese subs are still undergoing sea trials, and not considered operational. Canada has 4 subs to its name, however only one is operational, one is in drydock and won't be repaired until 2010, and the other two have been relegated to spare parts. The numbers include everything and anything the IISS can count. For example a number of the Chinese subs are still undergoing sea trials, and not considered operational. Canada has 4 subs to its name, however only one is operational, one is in drydock and won’t be repaired until 2010, and the other two have been relegated to spare parts.

]]> http://cominganarchy.com/2008/04/18/comparison-of-submarine-fleets-in-northeast-asia/#comment-383328 mihnea Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:10:10 +0000 http://cominganarchy.com/2008/04/18/comparison-of-submarine-fleets-in-northeast-asia/#comment-383328 in nk's case, i'm asking the same thing. their two row-boats must be mightyier. in nk’s case, i’m asking the same thing. their two row-boats must be mightyier.

]]> http://cominganarchy.com/2008/04/18/comparison-of-submarine-fleets-in-northeast-asia/#comment-383327 Adrian Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:09:20 +0000 http://cominganarchy.com/2008/04/18/comparison-of-submarine-fleets-in-northeast-asia/#comment-383327 Are those numbers everything listed on paper, or everything that is seaworthy and doesn't sink? Are those numbers everything listed on paper, or everything that is seaworthy and doesn’t sink?

]]> http://cominganarchy.com/2008/04/18/comparison-of-submarine-fleets-in-northeast-asia/#comment-383326 Dan tdaxp Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:21:49 +0000 http://cominganarchy.com/2008/04/18/comparison-of-submarine-fleets-in-northeast-asia/#comment-383326 Fascinating! Fascinating!

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