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	<title>Comments on: Voter&#160;typology</title>
	<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2008/04/09/voter-typology/</link>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Compas Politic Romanesc&#160;&#124;&#160;Politica si New Media</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2008/04/09/voter-typology/#comment-383433</link>
		<dc:creator>Compas Politic Romanesc&#160;&#124;&#160;Politica si New Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://cominganarchy.com/2008/04/09/voter-typology/#comment-383433</guid>
		<description>[...] fi cenzurat! Glumesc. Younghusband de la Coming Anarchy identifica 4 tipologii de votanti intr-o postare care mie mi se pare foarte buna (YH, I&#8217;m glorifying your blogging accomplishments. Rejoice!). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] fi cenzurat! Glumesc. Younghusband de la Coming Anarchy identifica 4 tipologii de votanti intr-o postare care mie mi se pare foarte buna (YH, I&#8217;m glorifying your blogging accomplishments. Rejoice!). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2008/04/09/voter-typology/#comment-383224</link>
		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://cominganarchy.com/2008/04/09/voter-typology/#comment-383224</guid>
		<description>Interesting. I do think it glosses over the tribal nature of humanity. In-group, out-group thinking is endemic to human thought. American Blacks are supporting Obama over Hillary because ... he is Black. There are no party or issue differences between Obama and Hillary. She supports the same policies he does that relate specifically to Blacks. They just want to see one of their own be President. Which is a pretty typical human response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. I do think it glosses over the tribal nature of humanity. In-group, out-group thinking is endemic to human thought. American Blacks are supporting Obama over Hillary because &#8230; he is Black. There are no party or issue differences between Obama and Hillary. She supports the same policies he does that relate specifically to Blacks. They just want to see one of their own be President. Which is a pretty typical human response.</p>
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		<title>By: ComingAnarchy.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Electoral Systems, Pros and Cons</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2008/04/09/voter-typology/#comment-383215</link>
		<dc:creator>ComingAnarchy.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Electoral Systems, Pros and Cons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://cominganarchy.com/2008/04/09/voter-typology/#comment-383215</guid>
		<description>[...] follow-up on Younghusband&#8217;s post on voter typology, this post concerns three major types of election methods. It is interesting to note that a slight [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] follow-up on Younghusband&#8217;s post on voter typology, this post concerns three major types of election methods. It is interesting to note that a slight [...]</p>
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		<title>By: IJ</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2008/04/09/voter-typology/#comment-383214</link>
		<dc:creator>IJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 10:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://cominganarchy.com/2008/04/09/voter-typology/#comment-383214</guid>
		<description>Forget democratic states - entrepreneurial states are the future, says Philip Bobbit author of 'Shield of Achilles'.
 
&lt;i&gt;In my view the U.S. ought to encourage the development of entrepreneurial states rather than other forms in order to avoid international conflict, including sabotage, industrial espionage, and even armed warfare. I speculate that &lt;b&gt;leadership for this move is likelier to come from the leaders of multinational corporations and nongovernmental organizations (NGOs)&lt;/b&gt; than from leaders of the national security apparatus and the political establishment, &lt;b&gt;but I concede that business leaders are generally not prepared for such a role today.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forget democratic states &#8211; entrepreneurial states are the future, says Philip Bobbit author of &#8216;Shield of Achilles&#8217;.</p>
<p><i>In my view the U.S. ought to encourage the development of entrepreneurial states rather than other forms in order to avoid international conflict, including sabotage, industrial espionage, and even armed warfare. I speculate that <b>leadership for this move is likelier to come from the leaders of multinational corporations and nongovernmental organizations (NGOs)</b> than from leaders of the national security apparatus and the political establishment, <b>but I concede that business leaders are generally not prepared for such a role today.</b></i></p>
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		<title>By: Curzon</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2008/04/09/voter-typology/#comment-383210</link>
		<dc:creator>Curzon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 04:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://cominganarchy.com/2008/04/09/voter-typology/#comment-383210</guid>
		<description>The categorization is nice, but I frankly disagree with all of your conclusions.  As for your definition of "party voter", this is just too simple -- many party voters will not vote for candidates they deem "impure" or otherwise compromised.  And I see no basis whatsoever for the notion that "party voters" somehow control the political debate in America, which I frankly believe if anything is left more to the issues voters, but which I think ignores the strength of media and interest groups.  
The question of what system of democracy is best to reflect the will of the people is a complicated question on which one could write all sorts of books, and I plan to post on "election models" very shortly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The categorization is nice, but I frankly disagree with all of your conclusions.  As for your definition of &#8220;party voter&#8221;, this is just too simple&#8212;many party voters will not vote for candidates they deem &#8220;impure&#8221; or otherwise compromised.  And I see no basis whatsoever for the notion that &#8220;party voters&#8221; somehow control the political debate in America, which I frankly believe if anything is left more to the issues voters, but which I think ignores the strength of media and interest groups.<br />
The question of what system of democracy is best to reflect the will of the people is a complicated question on which one could write all sorts of books, and I plan to post on &#8220;election models&#8221; very shortly.</p>
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		<title>By: Younghusband</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2008/04/09/voter-typology/#comment-383208</link>
		<dc:creator>Younghusband</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 00:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://cominganarchy.com/2008/04/09/voter-typology/#comment-383208</guid>
		<description>Adrian, I think Identity-based voters could be a fifth category. Often personal interests play a role in this situation. You feel that your guy will be able to do something for you and your people. However, voting for the "native son" or based on race is not necessarily Interests-based in every case, though I am sure there is a lot of overlap.

One thing I didn't mention is how a voter could actually feel the pull of two or more categories. Say you have an Issues-based voter whose surrounding family and friends are Party-based. This could influence his decisions. He could feel conflicted at the ballot-box, which could compromise his rationality.

Another thing to consider is how politicians campaign to each group of these voters simultaneously. Politicians try to look morally upstanding, identify with voters, discuss big issues and fight for the common man all at the same time. A politician may also frame his campaign to appeal to one category if he feels that the majority of voters lies there. For example campaigning on the Iraq war with the idea that more people are against it than for something else, like stem-cell research.

Although I can't remember which document, I remember reading about the US founding fathers who thought of the voting public as people who vote based solely on their own interests. They based their democracy on the idea that if everyone voted for their own interest, all interests would be represented proportionally on a national scale which would be "fair". It seems to me they didn't see that there are many different types of voters which can unbalance their imagined system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adrian, I think Identity-based voters could be a fifth category. Often personal interests play a role in this situation. You feel that your guy will be able to do something for you and your people. However, voting for the &#8220;native son&#8221; or based on race is not necessarily Interests-based in every case, though I am sure there is a lot of overlap.</p>
<p>One thing I didn&#8217;t mention is how a voter could actually feel the pull of two or more categories. Say you have an Issues-based voter whose surrounding family and friends are Party-based. This could influence his decisions. He could feel conflicted at the ballot-box, which could compromise his rationality.</p>
<p>Another thing to consider is how politicians campaign to each group of these voters simultaneously. Politicians try to look morally upstanding, identify with voters, discuss big issues and fight for the common man all at the same time. A politician may also frame his campaign to appeal to one category if he feels that the majority of voters lies there. For example campaigning on the Iraq war with the idea that more people are against it than for something else, like stem-cell research.</p>
<p>Although I can&#8217;t remember which document, I remember reading about the US founding fathers who thought of the voting public as people who vote based solely on their own interests. They based their democracy on the idea that if everyone voted for their own interest, all interests would be represented proportionally on a national scale which would be &#8220;fair&#8221;. It seems to me they didn&#8217;t see that there are many different types of voters which can unbalance their imagined system.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2008/04/09/voter-typology/#comment-383207</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 23:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://cominganarchy.com/2008/04/09/voter-typology/#comment-383207</guid>
		<description>Moderates? Less happy? No! How could anyone not enjoy being attacked from both sides at once?

Adrian: I could easily see identity-voting as a variant of one of the others depending on the specific nature of the thoughts involved. To whatever extent black interests differ from those of other races, a black person focused on those distinctive issues would be an interest voter. A person (black or otherwise) who sees the problems of the black community as problems for the nation as a whole (not necessarily a bad idea)would be an issues voter. A person who sees one party as being far-and-away the best for black people would be a party-voter. A person who votes for black candidates whenever such are available would be a personality-voter.
Chief: I wonder how many people, if presented with information on three candidates stripped of all known bias inducers (pictures, names) or 'irrational' information would even be able to make a decision between the three?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moderates? Less happy? No! How could anyone not enjoy being attacked from both sides at once?</p>
<p>Adrian: I could easily see identity-voting as a variant of one of the others depending on the specific nature of the thoughts involved. To whatever extent black interests differ from those of other races, a black person focused on those distinctive issues would be an interest voter. A person (black or otherwise) who sees the problems of the black community as problems for the nation as a whole (not necessarily a bad idea)would be an issues voter. A person who sees one party as being far-and-away the best for black people would be a party-voter. A person who votes for black candidates whenever such are available would be a personality-voter.<br />
Chief: I wonder how many people, if presented with information on three candidates stripped of all known bias inducers (pictures, names) or &#8216;irrational&#8217; information would even be able to make a decision between the three?</p>
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		<title>By: Chief Wiggum</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2008/04/09/voter-typology/#comment-383206</link>
		<dc:creator>Chief Wiggum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://cominganarchy.com/2008/04/09/voter-typology/#comment-383206</guid>
		<description>Elizabeth Kolbert recently reviewed _“Predictably Irrational: The Hidden Forces That Shape Our Decisions”_ by Dan Ariely, a professor at M.I.T.  The book is primarily about how systematic illogic is used in making economic decisions.  It also has a few bits about how this overlaps into political decision-making.

_Like neoclassical economics, much democratic theory rests on the assumption that people are rational. Here, too, empirical evidence suggests otherwise. Voters, it has been demonstrated, are influenced by factors ranging from how names are placed on a ballot to the jut of a politician’s jaw. A 2004 study of New York City primary-election results put the advantage of being listed first on the ballot for a local office at more than three per cent—enough of a boost to turn many races. (For statewide office, the advantage was around two per cent.) A 2005 study, conducted by psychologists at Princeton, showed that it was possible to predict the results of congressional contests by using photographs. Researchers presented subjects with fleeting images of candidates’ faces. Those candidates who, in the subjects’ opinion, looked more “competent” won about seventy per cent of the time._

_When it comes to public-policy decisions, people exhibit curious—but, once again, predictable—biases. They value a service (say, upgrading fire equipment) more when it is described in isolation than when it is presented as part of a larger good (say, improving disaster preparedness). They are keen on tax “bonuses” but dislike tax “penalties,” even though the two are functionally equivalent. They are more inclined to favor a public policy when it is labelled the status quo. In assessing a policy’s benefits, they tend to ignore whole orders of magnitude. In an experiment demonstrating this last effect, sometimes called “scope insensitivity,” subjects were told that migrating birds were drowning in ponds of oil. They were then asked how much they would pay to prevent the deaths by erecting nets. To save two thousand birds, the subjects were willing to pay, on average, eighty dollars. To save twenty thousand birds, they were willing to pay only seventy-eight dollars, and to save two hundred thousand birds they were willing to pay eighty-eight dollars.  What is to be done with information like this?_

The article is in "The New Yorker":http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/books/2008/02/25/080225crbo_books_kolbert.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elizabeth Kolbert recently reviewed <em>&#8220;Predictably Irrational: The Hidden Forces That Shape Our Decisions&#8221;</em> by Dan Ariely, a professor at M.I.T.  The book is primarily about how systematic illogic is used in making economic decisions.  It also has a few bits about how this overlaps into political decision-making.</p>
<p><em>Like neoclassical economics, much democratic theory rests on the assumption that people are rational. Here, too, empirical evidence suggests otherwise. Voters, it has been demonstrated, are influenced by factors ranging from how names are placed on a ballot to the jut of a politician&#8217;s jaw. <span class="caps">A 2004</span> study of New York City primary-election results put the advantage of being listed first on the ballot for a local office at more than three per cent&#8212;enough of a boost to turn many races. (For statewide office, the advantage was around two per cent.) <span class="caps">A 2005</span> study, conducted by psychologists at Princeton, showed that it was possible to predict the results of congressional contests by using photographs. Researchers presented subjects with fleeting images of candidates&#8217; faces. Those candidates who, in the subjects&#8217; opinion, looked more &#8220;competent&#8221; won about seventy per cent of the time.</em></p>
<p><em>When it comes to public-policy decisions, people exhibit curious&#8212;but, once again, predictable&#8212;biases. They value a service (say, upgrading fire equipment) more when it is described in isolation than when it is presented as part of a larger good (say, improving disaster preparedness). They are keen on tax &#8220;bonuses&#8221; but dislike tax &#8220;penalties,&#8221; even though the two are functionally equivalent. They are more inclined to favor a public policy when it is labelled the status quo. In assessing a policy&#8217;s benefits, they tend to ignore whole orders of magnitude. In an experiment demonstrating this last effect, sometimes called &#8220;scope insensitivity,&#8221; subjects were told that migrating birds were drowning in ponds of oil. They were then asked how much they would pay to prevent the deaths by erecting nets. To save two thousand birds, the subjects were willing to pay, on average, eighty dollars. To save twenty thousand birds, they were willing to pay only seventy-eight dollars, and to save two hundred thousand birds they were willing to pay eighty-eight dollars.  What is to be done with information like this?</em></p>
<p>The article is in <a href="http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/books/2008/02/25/080225crbo_books_kolbert" title="" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/comment/www.newyorker.com');">The New Yorker</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2008/04/09/voter-typology/#comment-383205</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://cominganarchy.com/2008/04/09/voter-typology/#comment-383205</guid>
		<description>What about identity-based voters?  i.e., how race/class has an impact in the Democratic primary, poor whites for Hillary and blacks for Obama.  Voting based on whether or not the candidate is someone the voter can identify with, rather than evaluating their character or whatever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about identity-based voters?  i.e., how race/class has an impact in the Democratic primary, poor whites for Hillary and blacks for Obama.  Voting based on whether or not the candidate is someone the voter can identify with, rather than evaluating their character or whatever.</p>
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