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February 19th, 2008

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If Kosovo, Why Not Vermont?

Kosovo’s independence has created a whirlwind of diplomatic activity, worries, news articles and discussion. But let me say it in no uncertain words: Kosovo does not set a precedent for others.

Kosovo’s February 17th declaration of independence was perhaps the most carefully orchestrated, controlled and cautiousl independence ever. The declaration itself mentions the UN, international law, EU and a number of other parts of the Ahtisaari plan. For example:

3. We accept fully the obligations for Kosovo contained in the Ahtisaari Plan [...]

4. We shall adopt as soon as possible a Constitution that enshrines our commitment to respect the human rights and fundamental freedoms of all our citizens, particularly as defined by the European Convention on Human Rights. The Constitution shall incorporate all relevant principles of the Ahtisaari Plan [...]

5. We welcome the international community’s continued support of our democratic development through international presences established in Kosovo on the basis of U.N. Security Council Resolution 1244 (1999). We invite and welcome an international civilian presence to supervise our implementation of the Ahtisaari Plan, and a European Union-led rule of law mission. We also invite and welcome the North Atlantic Treaty Organization to retain the leadership role of the international military presence in Kosovo and to implement responsibilities assigned to it under U.N. [...]

If that was a controversial declaration of independence then I’d like to see an acceptable one. While most media outlets are talking about precedents and naming every tiny conflict under the sun like Transdniester or a secessionist movement in Vermont, the real problem is that Kosovo has finally raised a question people have been asking for decades and nobody was answering: Who gets to be a state?

Indeed, what constitutes acceptable demands for independence that the international community will recognize? People in Scotland, Northern Ireland, the Basque Country, Catalonia, northern Italy, Turkey, Nagorno-Karabagh, Abkhazia, Northern Iraq and more all want to know. In 1900, there were approximately 57 countries in the world. In 2000, there were around 192. What happened?

Countries, Nations, Nation-States and Nationalism

A number of major events happened within the 20th century that led to the proliferation of the current form of country, the nation-state. First of all, we must be firm with our definitions, namely that:

A country is a sovereign state that controls internationally recognized territorial borders, has a government which provides public services and police power, and has sovereignty.

A nation is culturally homogeneous groups of people, larger than a single tribe or community, which share a common language, institutions, religion, and historical experience.

A nation-state exists when a nation of people have their own independent country. An example would be Germany, France or America. It is also possible to have nations without states, such as the Kurds who are clearly a distinct nation but have no country of their own.

Nationalism is a political ideology stating that a nation of people has the right to constitute an independent or autonomous political community based on a shared history and common destiny. Most nationalists believe the borders of the state should be congruent with the borders of the nation. (via wikipedia)

So Who Gets to be a State?

Over the next week, I’ll be discussing the nation state, nationalism and whether we’ve reached a post-nation-state era and trying to answer the question posed by an independent Kosovo.

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Jack
February 19, 2008
9:58 pm
Well, the PRC also has not recognized Kosovo at this point, for obvious reasons as well.
AC
February 19, 2008
10:54 pm
Why not? Maybe because Vermont hasn't been ethnically cleansed and governed by the UN for the past 9 years?
Younghusband
February 19, 2008
10:54 pm
Hey Chirol have you read "Breaking of Nations":http://www.amazon.com/Breaking-Nations-Order-Chaos-Century/dp/0771022662/ by Cooper? He deals with these kinds of definitions.
Chirol
February 19, 2008
11:02 pm
YH: No I haven't but I think I will now!
Jesus Reyes
February 19, 2008
11:40 pm
Russell Means has a pretty well developed Lakotah Nation secession movement. Mark Ames has a pretty funny piece on it at The Exile.
Curzon
February 20, 2008
12:52 am
"An example would be Germany, France or America."

Well, perhaps the "United States of America," but even there I think it's very hard to argue that the US is a nation-state.

Jack: interestingly enough, the PRC was the first major power to recognize Macedonia as an independent state a decade and change ago. Shows how things change...
dj
February 20, 2008
1:38 am
I eagerly await the nation-state discussion. I enjoy this topic, especially from a geographic perspective.
ElamBend
February 20, 2008
3:30 am
Do you think that the ability of ever smaller countries to exist rests upon a relatively stable set of international institutions: The United Nations and the United States, as well as the EU (and the global economic system they support)? Also, small nation-states and countries only work when they are assured relatively small or non-existent trade barriers (or they sit on a pile of oil).

Nations seem to exert themselves at either end of the stability spectrum. If the situation is complete chaos, then the Nation becomes the default mode. If it is in a middle ground, the compromise and banding together may be encouraged, particularly against 'outside' aggressors. If things are completely stable, then affluence can render such bonds unnecessarily and encourage a rise of National pride, though not necessarily strife.
Mark
February 20, 2008
3:59 am
I fully support the death of Leviathan. I hope to help it along its path to extinction or at least irrelevance. The welfare/warfare state is on its way out.
P. Aeneas
February 20, 2008
4:53 am
"I fully support the death of Leviathan. I hope to help it along its path to extinction or at least irrelevance. The welfare/warfare state is on its way out."


In my short life, I've found that it's usually unwise to quit your job unless have you another source of income lined up. If you want a more concrete example, from international affairs, look at Iraq. I wasn't sad to see Saddam's regime go the way of the dodo, but the lack of another 'Leviathan' to replace it in the immediate aftermath led to years of brutal chaos. Forgive me if I'm not anxious to sign up for that.
R
February 20, 2008
8:40 pm
Interesting take by former UK ambassador to Yugoslavia, Ivor Roberts. For him the solution is to partition Kosovo:

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/ivor-roberts-the-threat-of-a-balkan-flareup-has-not-gone-away-778043.html
Soob
February 20, 2008
8:49 pm
"Why not Vermont?" Because the most vocal knuckleheads that support such foolishness are never able to lay out how they'll accomplish it. Ask them and they'll ramble on ad infinite about "why" but can't seem to get around to any comprehensive strategy for pulling it off.

Looking forward to your posts on this.
walter
February 20, 2008
9:15 pm
If Kosovo, why not northern Kosovo? Why do we support Kosovo's independence from Serbia but not the independence of Serb-majority northern Kosovo from Kosovo? As I understand it they want to rejoin (or not leave) Serbia. Why can't they? One posting says there are four reasons why it won't happen. The UN, the US, Serbia, and Kosovo are all against it. See http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/forumy/2007/03/kosovo-un-plans-human-rights-disaster.php
R
February 20, 2008
9:47 pm
Thomas de Waal on the impact of Kosovo on the southern Caucasus:

http://www.iwpr.net/EN-crs-f-342806
elambend
February 21, 2008
1:27 am
I agree with the Ambassador. The very logic that concludes with the split of Kosovo from Serbia must apply to those Serbian areas inside of historic Kosovo. If we are in for a penny with partition, we should be in for a pound. It will not take away Serbian bitterness over the secession, but it will lower the chances of incidents and the need to 'protect' Serbs in Kosovo (and would protect some of the historic Monastaries there as well.
sun bin
February 21, 2008
7:22 am
PRC Macedonia? :)

you need to understand this is a result of competition.
someone else is trying to compete with PRC in recognizing Macedonia, and it needs to act fast.
as a matter of fact, ROC has already volunteered to recognize Kosovo!
lirelou
February 21, 2008
11:49 pm
I'd add Puerto Rico to the list of nations which are not nation-states. Indeed, all politics on the island are based upon that dichotomy.
A.R.Yngve
February 22, 2008
9:13 pm
The Balkans, unlike Vermont, suffers from a "surplus of history."
Consul-At-Arms
February 23, 2008
7:36 am
I've quoted you and linked to you here: http://consul-at-arms.blogspot.com/2008/02/re-if-kosovo-why-not-vermont.html
IJ
February 23, 2008
3:31 pm
It's a pity that internationally recognised territorial borders aren't always respected. Moreover the changing rules on borders have consequences for the Falkland Islands as well as the Arctic.
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