Comments on: The Origins of World War I http://cominganarchy.com/2008/01/18/the-origins-of-world-war-i/ Speak Victorian, Think Pagan Wed, 08 Oct 2008 03:53:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: Michael http://cominganarchy.com/2008/01/18/the-origins-of-world-war-i/#comment-381699 Michael Wed, 23 Jan 2008 00:50:09 +0000 http://cominganarchy.com/2008/01/18/the-origins-of-world-war-i/#comment-381699 Meaning that the best approach to such a potential collapse is the same as with NK-- talk with the other powers before-hand to hash out a mutual plan of action. Wait, that would make sense . . . Meaning that the best approach to such a potential collapse is the same as with NK—talk with the other powers before-hand to hash out a mutual plan of action. Wait, that would make sense . . .

]]> By: Curzon http://cominganarchy.com/2008/01/18/the-origins-of-world-war-i/#comment-381675 Curzon Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:58:57 +0000 http://cominganarchy.com/2008/01/18/the-origins-of-world-war-i/#comment-381675 Well, Pakistan is the only country that comes to mind with massive US and Chinese aid, in various forms. There is no real deep meaning beyond that. Certainly if Pakistan were to implode, the reactions of the US, China and India do seem the most likely catalyst for a great power war in this century. Well, Pakistan is the only country that comes to mind with massive US and Chinese aid, in various forms. There is no real deep meaning beyond that. Certainly if Pakistan were to implode, the reactions of the US, China and India do seem the most likely catalyst for a great power war in this century.

]]> By: Rommel http://cominganarchy.com/2008/01/18/the-origins-of-world-war-i/#comment-381665 Rommel Mon, 21 Jan 2008 02:15:02 +0000 http://cominganarchy.com/2008/01/18/the-origins-of-world-war-i/#comment-381665 I misunderstood the original graphic. It simply represented the web of alliances/treaties. In the second graphic you are merely stating that Pakistan is aided and supported by two strategically opposing nations. If you still care to elaborate, that'd be great. I misunderstood the original graphic. It simply represented the web of alliances/treaties.
In the second graphic you are merely stating that Pakistan is aided and supported by two strategically opposing nations. If you still care to elaborate, that’d be great.

]]> By: Rommel http://cominganarchy.com/2008/01/18/the-origins-of-world-war-i/#comment-381645 Rommel Sun, 20 Jan 2008 01:21:39 +0000 http://cominganarchy.com/2008/01/18/the-origins-of-world-war-i/#comment-381645 Curzon, Please elaborate on your last graphic.. Are you suggesting Pakistan would - similar to the Balkans in WWI - be the location of the catalyst for war between the West+Japan vs our East Asian adversaries? I imagine India would be involved there too.. perhaps where Pakistan is now? Curzon,

Please elaborate on your last graphic..
Are you suggesting Pakistan would – similar to the Balkans in WWI - be the location of the catalyst for war between the West+Japan vs our East Asian adversaries? I imagine India would be involved there too.. perhaps where Pakistan is now?

]]> By: A.R.Yngve http://cominganarchy.com/2008/01/18/the-origins-of-world-war-i/#comment-381634 A.R.Yngve Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:17:12 +0000 http://cominganarchy.com/2008/01/18/the-origins-of-world-war-i/#comment-381634 WAAAAAAAAH!!! :-O WAAAAAAAAH
:-O

]]> By: Monte Davis http://cominganarchy.com/2008/01/18/the-origins-of-world-war-i/#comment-381630 Monte Davis Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:35:35 +0000 http://cominganarchy.com/2008/01/18/the-origins-of-world-war-i/#comment-381630 Clarification: to me, Pudding's mania recalls, e.g., the egregious Kaplan's "When North Korea Falls" http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200610/kaplan-korea with its extended scenario of the "seven stages of collapse." From Italy 1915 (and 1943) to Baghdad since 2003 to Nairobi and Islamabad next week to the clash of civilizations, I'd dearly love to see more *humility* in our games of "things that can happen." Clarification: to me, Pudding’s mania recalls, e.g., the egregious Kaplan’s “When North Korea Falls”

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200610/kaplan-korea

with its extended scenario of the “seven stages of collapse.” From Italy 1915 (and 1943) to Baghdad since 2003 to Nairobi and Islamabad next week to the clash of civilizations, I’d dearly love to see more humility in our games of “things that can happen.”

]]> By: Curzon http://cominganarchy.com/2008/01/18/the-origins-of-world-war-i/#comment-381629 Curzon Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:24:46 +0000 http://cominganarchy.com/2008/01/18/the-origins-of-world-war-i/#comment-381629 A.R.Yngve: how's this for a start? <img src='http://cominganarchy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/scenario1.png' alt='scenario1.png' /> A.R.Yngve: how’s this for a start?

scenario1.png

]]> By: Monte Davis http://cominganarchy.com/2008/01/18/the-origins-of-world-war-i/#comment-381627 Monte Davis Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:50:53 +0000 http://cominganarchy.com/2008/01/18/the-origins-of-world-war-i/#comment-381627 Or, as think I've suggested before, consult Gravity's Rainbow for the story of WWI Brigadier Ernest Pudding: "He was pensioned off around the beginning of the Great Depression... to go at a spot of combinatorial analysis, that favorite pastime of retired Army officers, with a rattling intense devotion. It occurred to him to focus his hobby on the European balance of power... He started in on a mammoth work entitled 'Things That Can Happen in European Politics.' Begin, of course, with England. 'First,' he wrote, 'Bereshith, as it were: Ramsay MacDonald can die.' By the time he went through resulting party alignments and possible permutations of cabinet posts, Ramsay MacDonald had died. 'Never make it,' he found himself muttering at the beginning of each day’s work— 'it’s changing out from under me. Oh, dodgy — very dodgy.'" Or, as think I’ve suggested before, consult Gravity’s Rainbow for the story of WWI Brigadier Ernest Pudding:

“He was pensioned off around the beginning of the Great Depression… to go at a spot of combinatorial analysis, that favorite pastime of retired Army officers, with a rattling intense devotion.
It occurred to him to focus his hobby on the European balance of power… He started in on a mammoth work entitled ‘Things That Can Happen in European Politics.’ Begin, of course, with England. ‘First,’ he wrote, ‘Bereshith, as it were: Ramsay MacDonald can die.’ By the time he went through resulting party alignments and possible permutations of cabinet posts, Ramsay MacDonald had died. ‘Never make it,’ he found himself muttering at the beginning of each day’s work— ‘it’s changing out from under me. Oh, dodgy — very dodgy.’”

]]> By: A.R.Yngve http://cominganarchy.com/2008/01/18/the-origins-of-world-war-i/#comment-381625 A.R.Yngve Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:19:54 +0000 http://cominganarchy.com/2008/01/18/the-origins-of-world-war-i/#comment-381625 For more nightmare fodder, feel free to make similar graphs of possible alliances which might trigger war in the future... For more nightmare fodder, feel free to make similar graphs of possible alliances which might trigger war in the future…

]]> By: Dan tdaxp http://cominganarchy.com/2008/01/18/the-origins-of-world-war-i/#comment-381624 Dan tdaxp Fri, 18 Jan 2008 13:31:18 +0000 http://cominganarchy.com/2008/01/18/the-origins-of-world-war-i/#comment-381624 The graphic includes some of the alliances that were not upheld in the end (Italy-Austria, or instance), but ignores the Three Emperor's League, etc. The graphic includes some of the alliances that were not upheld in the end (Italy-Austria, or instance), but ignores the Three Emperor’s League, etc.

]]> By: TGGP http://cominganarchy.com/2008/01/18/the-origins-of-world-war-i/#comment-381623 TGGP Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:41:34 +0000 http://cominganarchy.com/2008/01/18/the-origins-of-world-war-i/#comment-381623 Either Italy fought on the other side or Hemingway was a liar. Either Italy fought on the other side or Hemingway was a liar.

]]> By: Darin http://cominganarchy.com/2008/01/18/the-origins-of-world-war-i/#comment-381622 Darin Fri, 18 Jan 2008 06:47:14 +0000 http://cominganarchy.com/2008/01/18/the-origins-of-world-war-i/#comment-381622 Okay, that's scary. I was just looking at this graphic on wikipedia a few hours ago. Okay, that’s scary. I was just looking at this graphic on wikipedia a few hours ago.

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