Every year The Edge Foundation gets together the world’s foremost thinkers and scientists to answer a question of the year. For 2008:
When thinking changes your mind, that’s philosophy.
When God changes your mind, that’s faith.
When facts change your mind, that’s science.WHAT HAVE YOU CHANGED YOUR MIND ABOUT? WHY?
Science is based on evidence. What happens when the data change? How have scientific findings or arguments changed your mind?”
As usual they line up some heavy hitters. Some names you might recognize:
- Nassim Taleb
- Chris Anderson
- Steven Pinker
- Stewart Brand
- Peter Schwartz
- Daniel Engber
- and the atheist trinity Richard Dawkins Daniel Dennett and Sam Harris
Dawkins’ comment is particularly interesting as I posted on the topic just two weeks ago.
Last year was a big one for me in terms of philosophical development. My outlook on international politics has completely transformed and become much more refined through discussions with my new thesis supervisor. My outlook on human knowledge changed after being introduced to gentleman such as Karl Popper, Thomas Kuhn, W.V. Quine etc through this course. Also, I read Richard Dawkins’ The God Delusion last year which got me off the fence of agnosticism.
During 2007 is there anything you changed your mind about?
P.S. – Here is last year’s question
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Dan tdaxp added these pithy words on 03 Jan 08 at 2:12 pmThe Surge. I was bitterly opposed at the time, and felt it was emblematic of everything that Bush was doing wrong in Iraq.
I was wrong. Bush (and Petraeus) were right.
Richardson added these pithy words on 03 Jan 08 at 3:22 pmWhen the Bush administration started dealing with the North Korean regime, I thought they were giving Kim Jong-il enough rope to hang himself (i.e., letting Kim prove by his actions, once again, that proponents of engagement were wrong about North Korea). But, apparently, the Bush admin is more interested in a pseudo-legacy than solving the problem. The worst part is that some of the targeted sanctions were working far better than they have been given credit for.
It would be incredibly ironic if Hillary inherited the problem her husband swept under the rug (warning of an HEU program, 1997-1999) and passed on to Bush. But of course ignoring the problem makes it go away, at least until North Korea produces, tests, or sells uranium-based nuclear weapons.
I also find it amazing that anyone takes Dawkins’ vitriolic take on religion through provoking.
Chirol added these pithy words on 03 Jan 08 at 3:55 pmYH: Good to know you’re off the fence finally =)
Younghusband added these pithy words on 03 Jan 08 at 4:29 pmOne more thing I changed my mind about in 2007: the New York Times. I used to be categorically opposed to it, but since December I have actually been reading it pretty much daily.
@Richardson Have you read any of Dawkins’ books?
@Chirol After being touched by His noodly appendage it doesn’t take much to fall off that fence. ;)
Dan tdaxp added these pithy words on 03 Jan 08 at 5:22 pmChirol & Curzon, don’t you guys check your mail any more?
ramjet added these pithy words on 04 Jan 08 at 12:30 amAnalizing my last “change of mind”s of this year, I think that the most important is the opinion and the sympathy shifting from Turkey to Greece.
Even if it’s against the logic of an opportunistic, geopolitic thinking. Even if all my previous thoughts about behaviour like the grece-russia political proximity already in the cold war era, the contacts and help to terrorists and many other things gave me no simpaty for this country, studying the story of the events of this last fifty years I came to the conclusion that many of this behaviour was and is mostly justified.
hoju_saram added these pithy words on 04 Jan 08 at 12:14 pmI read the god delusion as well, and it took me away from atheism and made me a TAP agnostic (a Dawkin term, also mild agnostic). Notwithstanding Dawkins faintly ridiculous argument about the “burden of proof”, this fairly well sums up the whole god thing for me:
“...agnosticism about the existence of God belongs firmly in the temporary or TAP category. Either he exists or he doesn’t. It is a scientific question; one day we may know the answer, and meanwhile we can say something pretty strong about the probability.”
Agnosticism is hardly fence-sitting – its simply acknowledging ignorance. Seems like a fairly sensible position to me. I give “god” a pretty low probability of existance, but I’m not in a position to be %100 certain that he’s a myth. Nor is anyone else. Could be he’s an alien. Might be one day we’ll find out. Who knows?
Younghusband added these pithy words on 04 Jan 08 at 12:34 pmI give “god” a pretty low probability of existance, but I’m not in a position to be %100 certain that he’s a myth
Dawkins’ himself says he is in this category. I remember him explaining the spectrum of belief and specifically not putting himself at the 100% NO side because that would be dogmatic and he is a scientist. I moved to this category from a position of complete agnosticism of the question. I was like: I am not religious; there may be something out there; nobody knows; religion is a personal thing; meh. I hadn’t even deeply thought or investigated the question. Then I ran into a couple of philosophy books, saw the Dawkins TED presentation and thought I would try his book out. I’m glad I did.
Dawkins has a knack for making some seriously aggressive soundbites, but once you read him I think he makes more sense. The big difference with him is he is more than atheist, he is anti-religious. That’s what gets everybody’s hackles up.
hoju_saram added these pithy words on 04 Jan 08 at 5:13 pmyeah, i liked what he had to say, definately worth a read
von Kaufman-Turkestansky added these pithy words on 04 Jan 08 at 8:04 pmI thought that Douglas Adams dealt with the problem most convincingly when he introduced us to the Babel Fish:
“Now it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that anything so mindboggingly useful could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as the final and clinching proof of the non-existence of God.
“The argument goes something like this: ‘I refuse to prove that I exist,’ says God, ‘for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.’
“‘But,’ says Man, ‘The Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn’t it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don’t. QED.’
“‘Oh dear,’ says God, ‘I hadn’t thought of that,’ and promptly vanished in a puff of logic.
“‘Oh, that was easy,’ says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing.”
– Douglas Adams, the Hitch-Hiker’s Guide to the Galaxy
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