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	<title>Comments on: A future succession crisis for Tibetan&#160;Buddhism</title>
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	<description>Speak Victorian, Think Pagan</description>
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		<title>By: Jing</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/12/04/a-future-succession-crisis-for-tibetan-buddhism/comment-page-1/#comment-381187</link>
		<dc:creator>Jing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 19:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What hypothesis? That is what actually happened in the selection of the Panchen Lama. 

If you are referring to my first paragraph, I wasn't speaking about the Panchen Lama (Don't know why the paragraph's didn't show up) but rather non Yellow Hat Tibetan Budhists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What hypothesis? That is what actually happened in the selection of the Panchen Lama.</p>
<p>If you are referring to my first paragraph, I wasn&#8217;t speaking about the Panchen Lama (Don&#8217;t know why the paragraph&#8217;s didn&#8217;t show up) but rather non Yellow Hat Tibetan Budhists.</p>
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		<title>By: Aceface</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aceface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 04:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Problem of your hypothesis is,Jing,the significant number of Tibetans had stopped recognizing Panchen Lama as their spiritual leader,but as the puppet of CCP.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Problem of your hypothesis is,Jing,the significant number of Tibetans had stopped recognizing Panchen Lama as their spiritual leader,but as the puppet of <span class="caps">CCP</span>&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Jing</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/12/04/a-future-succession-crisis-for-tibetan-buddhism/comment-page-1/#comment-381165</link>
		<dc:creator>Jing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 15:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are already existing fissures in Tibetan Buddhism that few people are aware of, a significant number of Tibetans have never recognized the Dalai Lama as their spiritual leader. Most people in the West, almost all except for those in a specialized field of study, receive a very sanitized view of Tibet and it's politics espoused by the Lamaist clique.

The Communist Party is not the only one engaged in a media and psy-ops campaign, it just happens to be that the exiled Tibetans are much more successful for a variety of reasons.

For example Younghusband, the selection of the latest Panchen Lama is not precisely what you made it out to be. In actuality, the communists when through a lengthy and detailed selection process based on established precedent and tradition carried out by the leading tulkus within Tibet. The choice as it happened to be was Gedhun Choekyi Nyima who is also the child espoused by the Lamaist clique. The problem arose when Chadrel Rinpoche who was part of the government sponsored search committee leaked the results to the exiles. What then happened was that the Dalai Lama proclaimed the boy as the reincarnate Panchen Lama ahead of the Chinese announcement, thereby stealing their thunder. Basically if the boy was to be installed as the Panchen Lama, it would be perceived that the government was simply following the Dalai Lama's lead and that final authority (both secular and religious since in Tibet they were the same) belonged to the exile leader. Perception is key to this entire affair and rather than letting the Dalai Lama steal the initiative, the Chinese scrapped Gedhun Choekyi Nyima's candidacy and re-selected Gyaincain Norbu, the "official" Panchen Lama of today, from the list of remaining finalists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are already existing fissures in Tibetan Buddhism that few people are aware of, a significant number of Tibetans have never recognized the Dalai Lama as their spiritual leader. Most people in the West, almost all except for those in a specialized field of study, receive a very sanitized view of Tibet and it&#8217;s politics espoused by the Lamaist clique.</p>
<p>The Communist Party is not the only one engaged in a media and psy-ops campaign, it just happens to be that the exiled Tibetans are much more successful for a variety of reasons.</p>
<p>For example Younghusband, the selection of the latest Panchen Lama is not precisely what you made it out to be. In actuality, the communists when through a lengthy and detailed selection process based on established precedent and tradition carried out by the leading tulkus within Tibet. The choice as it happened to be was Gedhun Choekyi Nyima who is also the child espoused by the Lamaist clique. The problem arose when Chadrel Rinpoche who was part of the government sponsored search committee leaked the results to the exiles. What then happened was that the Dalai Lama proclaimed the boy as the reincarnate Panchen Lama ahead of the Chinese announcement, thereby stealing their thunder. Basically if the boy was to be installed as the Panchen Lama, it would be perceived that the government was simply following the Dalai Lama&#8217;s lead and that final authority (both secular and religious since in Tibet they were the same) belonged to the exile leader. Perception is key to this entire affair and rather than letting the Dalai Lama steal the initiative, the Chinese scrapped Gedhun Choekyi Nyima&#8217;s candidacy and re-selected Gyaincain Norbu, the &#8220;official&#8221; Panchen Lama of today, from the list of remaining finalists.</p>
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		<title>By: feeblemind</title>
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		<dc:creator>feeblemind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 19:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is truly bizarre and intriguing. I did not know of this. Thanks for posting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is truly bizarre and intriguing. I did not know of this. Thanks for posting.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 00:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a debate with Dan on his site, I suggested that multinational religious groups might be able to win more freedom from Chinese government interference by offering to send members convicted of antigovernment activities into exile at their own expense. It wouldn't be as easy for the Tibetans as for the Catholic church (they don't have as much money or a country they control), but if they could get the funds and a ready source of foreign visas somewhere. . .

That would at least keep the Tibetans from being split by a sudden change in succession tradition. Whether Chinese leadership would agree to giving up their tradition of government domination over religious matters is another issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a debate with Dan on his site, I suggested that multinational religious groups might be able to win more freedom from Chinese government interference by offering to send members convicted of antigovernment activities into exile at their own expense. It wouldn&#8217;t be as easy for the Tibetans as for the Catholic church (they don&#8217;t have as much money or a country they control), but if they could get the funds and a ready source of foreign visas somewhere. . .</p>
<p>That would at least keep the Tibetans from being split by a sudden change in succession tradition. Whether Chinese leadership would agree to giving up their tradition of government domination over religious matters is another issue.</p>
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