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	<title>Comments on: This is&#160;Zimbabwe</title>
	<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/11/04/this-is-zimbabwe/</link>
	<description>Speak Victorian, Think Pagan</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 15:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: IJ</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/11/04/this-is-zimbabwe/#comment-380805</link>
		<dc:creator>IJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 11:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Update&lt;/b&gt;

Intervention is just one of the subjects covered recently by the immensely provocative &lt;a href="http://www.thomaspmbarnett.com/weblog/2007/11/recasting_the_long_war_as.html#comments" rel="nofollow"&gt;TPM Barnett&lt;/a&gt;.

He thinks that China has got intervention mostly right and the US has it wrong.
 
&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;the best nation-building brand out there right now is the Chinese model.&lt;/b&gt; I know, I know, it doesn’t meet our threshold definitions of democracy and human rights (not to mention coming nowhere near our EPA standards), but it sure as hell beats America’s post-Cold War product line of Somalia, Haiti, Afghanistan and Iraq. Let’s be honest: China’s leveraged buyouts, as mercantilist as they are, beat our hostile takeovers—hands down. And that just tells you how bad America’s military intervention “brand” has become.  So, starting with Vietnam. . .&lt;/i&gt;
  
&lt;i&gt;Put another way, you can invade the country and then start up your counter-insurgency/reconstruction ops (the American route), &lt;b&gt;or&lt;/b&gt; you might just co-opt the major players pre-conflict with investment offers they can’t refuse (the Chinese route).&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;if we combined our chocolate (military interventions with a moral compass) with China’s peanut butter (economic interventions with a practical mindset), we might actually come up with a whole superpower, or basically a joint offering that finally covers the market—as in, defeats our political enemies while connecting the economically disenfranchised.&lt;/i&gt;

This approach of course means more carnage like Rwanda, in a worst case scenario.  But TPMB counters that military intervention gets US soldiers needlessly killed.  Moreover the debate raises fundamental questions about &lt;a href="http://www.responsibilitytoprotect.org/" rel="nofollow"&gt;R2P&lt;/a&gt;.

The outcome of this matter is crucial because many governments are currently rethinking their militaries.</description>
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<p>Intervention is just one of the subjects covered recently by the immensely provocative <a href="http://www.thomaspmbarnett.com/weblog/2007/11/recasting_the_long_war_as.html#comments" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/comment/www.thomaspmbarnett.com');"><span class="caps">TPM </span>Barnett</a>.</p>
<p>He thinks that China has got intervention mostly right and the US has it wrong.</p>
<p><i><b>the best nation-building brand out there right now is the Chinese model.</b> I know, I know, it doesn&#8217;t meet our threshold definitions of democracy and human rights (not to mention coming nowhere near our <span class="caps">EPA</span> standards), but it sure as hell beats America&#8217;s post-Cold War product line of Somalia, Haiti, Afghanistan and Iraq. Let&#8217;s be honest: China&#8217;s leveraged buyouts, as mercantilist as they are, beat our hostile takeovers&#8212;hands down. And that just tells you how bad America&#8217;s military intervention &#8220;brand&#8221; has become.  So, starting with Vietnam. . .</i></p>
<p><i>Put another way, you can invade the country and then start up your counter-insurgency/reconstruction ops (the American route), <b>or</b> you might just co-opt the major players pre-conflict with investment offers they can&#8217;t refuse (the Chinese route).</i></p>
<p><i>if we combined our chocolate (military interventions with a moral compass) with China&#8217;s peanut butter (economic interventions with a practical mindset), we might actually come up with a whole superpower, or basically a joint offering that finally covers the market&#8212;as in, defeats our political enemies while connecting the economically disenfranchised.</i></p>
<p>This approach of course means more carnage like Rwanda, in a worst case scenario.  But <span class="caps">TPMB</span> counters that military intervention gets US soldiers needlessly killed.  Moreover the debate raises fundamental questions about <a href="http://www.responsibilitytoprotect.org/" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/comment/www.responsibilitytoprotect.org');"><span class="caps">R2P</span></a>.</p>
<p>The outcome of this matter is crucial because many governments are currently rethinking their militaries.</p>
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		<title>By: This is Zimbabwe at Forward Deployed</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/11/04/this-is-zimbabwe/#comment-380784</link>
		<dc:creator>This is Zimbabwe at Forward Deployed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 04:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/11/04/this-is-zimbabwe/#comment-380784</guid>
		<description>[...] Coming Anarchy comes this great link from a blogger in Zimbabwe reporting on the food and economic crisis being [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Coming Anarchy comes this great link from a blogger in Zimbabwe reporting on the food and economic crisis being [...]</p>
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		<title>By: IJ</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/11/04/this-is-zimbabwe/#comment-380778</link>
		<dc:creator>IJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 12:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/11/04/this-is-zimbabwe/#comment-380778</guid>
		<description>&lt;a href="http://allafrica.com/stories/200711020023.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Zimbabwe: 1 000 More Tractors Expected From China&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;i&gt;Writing a global rule-set for intervention won’t be easy. The insurance risks map suggests that a militarised insurance company and the United Nations would intervene in regions for different reasons. For example the insurance company would not intervene to stop a humanitarian disaster.&lt;/i&gt;  From: &lt;a href="http://cominganarchy.com/2006/03/13/mapping-the-gap-part-iii-by-chirol/#comment-380767" rel="nofollow"&gt;Mapping the Gap&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://allafrica.com/stories/200711020023.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/comment/allafrica.com');">Zimbabwe: 1 000 More Tractors Expected From China</a></p>
<p><i>Writing a global rule-set for intervention won&#8217;t be easy. The insurance risks map suggests that a militarised insurance company and the United Nations would intervene in regions for different reasons. For example the insurance company would not intervene to stop a humanitarian disaster.</i>  From: <a href="http://cominganarchy.com/2006/03/13/mapping-the-gap-part-iii-by-chirol/#comment-380767" rel="nofollow" >Mapping the Gap</a>.</p>
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