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	<title>Comments on: The White Man&#8217;s&#160;Anger</title>
	<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/07/30/the-white-mans-anger/</link>
	<description>Speak Victorian, Think Pagan</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 04:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jasmin</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/07/30/the-white-mans-anger/#comment-381217</link>
		<dc:creator>Jasmin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 02:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/07/30/the-white-mans-anger/#comment-381217</guid>
		<description>It appears throughout history that the white man really has no country.  He seems to foreever busy himself with invading foriegn lands by brute force to control the resources. He  appeears to lack the spirit of cooperation somehow thinking that his ways and customs should be forced on all other men, be he Black, Brown, Yellow or Red in degrees of color.  He re-writes history with un-truths and gloryfies himself.  This behavior is very troubling and detrimental to human survival.   Even today, with Afganistan, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, North Korea...when will the people of the world put a stop to this ???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears throughout history that the white man really has no country.  He seems to foreever busy himself with invading foriegn lands by brute force to control the resources. He  appeears to lack the spirit of cooperation somehow thinking that his ways and customs should be forced on all other men, be he Black, Brown, Yellow or Red in degrees of color.  He re-writes history with un-truths and gloryfies himself.  This behavior is very troubling and detrimental to human survival.   Even today, with Afganistan, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, North Korea&#8230;when will the people of the world put a stop to this ???</p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/07/30/the-white-mans-anger/#comment-380618</link>
		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 09:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/07/30/the-white-mans-anger/#comment-380618</guid>
		<description>"Sounds like bad diplomacy and strategic thinking on behalf of the Maori at the beginning. Risk all and lose everything."

I agree with you, however that diplomacy was based on false documents.  The Treaty of Waitiangi signed in 1840 between the Crown and most of the Maori chiefs was poorly translated.  The English thought the Maori had accepted the crown's sovereignty over them and their land, whereas the Maori thought that the English could govern their own colonists.  The Maori were shafted by a greedy and cunning imperial power hungry for land (and willing to sink to lies to accomplish their mission)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sounds like bad diplomacy and strategic thinking on behalf of the Maori at the beginning. Risk all and lose everything.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree with you, however that diplomacy was based on false documents.  The Treaty of Waitiangi signed in 1840 between the Crown and most of the Maori chiefs was poorly translated.  The English thought the Maori had accepted the crown&#8217;s sovereignty over them and their land, whereas the Maori thought that the English could govern their own colonists.  The Maori were shafted by a greedy and cunning imperial power hungry for land (and willing to sink to lies to accomplish their mission)</p>
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		<title>By: Lirelou</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/07/30/the-white-mans-anger/#comment-377995</link>
		<dc:creator>Lirelou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 08:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/07/30/the-white-mans-anger/#comment-377995</guid>
		<description>Trench warfare? And all this time many thought that Vauban was the man who "perfected" the art of seige warfare though his perfection of trench warfare. Even his supporters didn't claim that he'd invented the method.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trench warfare? And all this time many thought that Vauban was the man who &#8220;perfected&#8221; the art of seige warfare though his perfection of trench warfare. Even his supporters didn&#8217;t claim that he&#8217;d invented the method.</p>
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		<title>By: strategist</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/07/30/the-white-mans-anger/#comment-376787</link>
		<dc:creator>strategist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 09:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/07/30/the-white-mans-anger/#comment-376787</guid>
		<description>I should add that Belich's 'The New Zealand Wars' was controversial when it came out, as it offered a complete reinterpretation of the wars, both the actual events and the historiography, from a number of angles. For my money it remains the best history on the wars. 

Belich was never afraid to shy away from big calls - for example, he argued that Maori were the first to invent trench warfare (the modern pa I referred to in the post) and that a well constructed modern pa, particularly the ones built in the Waikato, could have easily slotted into the British front line at the Ypres Salient in the Great War.

This idea has generated a lot of heated debate, most of it arguing against. Personally, I think that Belich's argument is compelling - but it's an unusual claim to fame - like saying that someone invented poison gas or the heavy bomber.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should add that Belich&#8217;s &#8216;The New Zealand Wars&#8217; was controversial when it came out, as it offered a complete reinterpretation of the wars, both the actual events and the historiography, from a number of angles. For my money it remains the best history on the wars.</p>
<p>Belich was never afraid to shy away from big calls &#8211; for example, he argued that Maori were the first to invent trench warfare (the modern pa I referred to in the post) and that a well constructed modern pa, particularly the ones built in the Waikato, could have easily slotted into the British front line at the Ypres Salient in the Great War.</p>
<p>This idea has generated a lot of heated debate, most of it arguing against. Personally, I think that Belich&#8217;s argument is compelling &#8211; but it&#8217;s an unusual claim to fame &#8211; like saying that someone invented poison gas or the heavy bomber.</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2007-07-30 &#171; Newsbong: Because News Matters, Kinda</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/07/30/the-white-mans-anger/#comment-376784</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2007-07-30 &#171; Newsbong: Because News Matters, Kinda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 08:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/07/30/the-white-mans-anger/#comment-376784</guid>
		<description>[...] The New Zealand Wars (tags: history) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: strategist</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/07/30/the-white-mans-anger/#comment-376781</link>
		<dc:creator>strategist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 07:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/07/30/the-white-mans-anger/#comment-376781</guid>
		<description>There's a large collection of books, ranging from the scholarly to the amateur historical. For the wars I'd recommend James Belich's &lt;i&gt;The New Zealand Wars&lt;/i&gt; (1986), which is a scholarly but very readable and interesting revisionist history, and James Cowan's &lt;i&gt;The New Zealand Wars and the Pionering Period&lt;/i&gt; (1922-23). The latter is a very good blow by blow account of all the campaigns and battles, based on primary evidence and interviews with old soldiers and warriors from the wars, and detailed walks over the ground 50 years or so after the events.

On New Zealand history, again Belich - &lt;i&gt;Making Peoples&lt;/i&gt;(1996), which covers the period up to the 1880s including the wars, while the second volume (&lt;i&gt;Paradise Reforged&lt;/i&gt;, 2001) goes up to the present day. These are very good works, though quite long. For a succinct single volume, Michael King's &lt;i&gt;The Penguin History of New Zealand&lt;/i&gt; (2003) is good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a large collection of books, ranging from the scholarly to the amateur historical. For the wars I&#8217;d recommend James Belich&#8217;s <i>The New Zealand Wars</i> (1986), which is a scholarly but very readable and interesting revisionist history, and James Cowan&#8217;s <i>The New Zealand Wars and the Pionering Period</i> (1922-23). The latter is a very good blow by blow account of all the campaigns and battles, based on primary evidence and interviews with old soldiers and warriors from the wars, and detailed walks over the ground 50 years or so after the events.</p>
<p>On New Zealand history, again Belich &#8211; <i>Making Peoples</i>(1996), which covers the period up to the 1880s including the wars, while the second volume (<i>Paradise Reforged</i>, 2001) goes up to the present day. These are very good works, though quite long. For a succinct single volume, Michael King&#8217;s <i>The Penguin History of New Zealand</i> (2003) is good.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimm the advocate</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/07/30/the-white-mans-anger/#comment-376771</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimm the advocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 02:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/07/30/the-white-mans-anger/#comment-376771</guid>
		<description>Sounds like bad diplomacy and strategic thinking on behalf of the Maori at the beginning. Risk all and lose everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like bad diplomacy and strategic thinking on behalf of the Maori at the beginning. Risk all and lose everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Lexington Green</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/07/30/the-white-mans-anger/#comment-376766</link>
		<dc:creator>Lexington Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 01:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/07/30/the-white-mans-anger/#comment-376766</guid>
		<description>What are the best books on this conflict?  Or on New Zealand history more generally?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are the best books on this conflict?  Or on New Zealand history more generally?</p>
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