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	<title>Comments on: Pot?  Kettle?  Black?  Slavery and Comfort&#160;Women</title>
	<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/</link>
	<description>Speak Victorian, Think Pagan</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: vtinos</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-312856</link>
		<dc:creator>vtinos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-312856</guid>
		<description>Some korean article from newspaper reports about Korean comfort wemans,
who is recruted by Korean goverment for UN army.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/oldernews/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some korean article from newspaper reports about Korean comfort wemans,<br />
who is recruted by Korean goverment for UN army.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/oldernews/" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/comment/www.flickr.com');">http://www.flickr.com/photos/oldernews/</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Marmot&#8217;s Hole &#187; NYT on Abe and the comfort women</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-292245</link>
		<dc:creator>The Marmot&#8217;s Hole &#187; NYT on Abe and the comfort women</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 16:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-292245</guid>
		<description>[...] Now, for the record, I think it&#8217;s ridiculous for the U.S. Congress to lecture Japan on historical issues, as I said here. Curzon of Coming Anarchy does an even better job of explaining why the Congressional effort to call Japan out on its understanding of its own history is &#8220;batshit crazy.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Now, for the record, I think it&#8217;s ridiculous for the U.S. Congress to lecture Japan on historical issues, as I said here. Curzon of Coming Anarchy does an even better job of explaining why the Congressional effort to call Japan out on its understanding of its own history is &#8220;batshit crazy.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Aceface</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-280284</link>
		<dc:creator>Aceface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 09:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-280284</guid>
		<description>Somebody tell them not to play with food!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somebody tell them not to play with food!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-279894</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 05:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-279894</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Dozens of people also rallied outside the Japanese Embassy in Seoul to mark the anniversary, lining up dead dogs' heads on the ground with pieces of paper in their mouths listing names of Koreans who allegedly collaborated with the Japanese during its 1910-45 colonial rule. Protest organizers said the animals were slaughtered at a restaurant; dogs are regularly consumed as food in Korea.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I swear, nobody protests like they do.</description>
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<blockquote>Dozens of people also rallied outside the Japanese Embassy in Seoul to mark the anniversary, lining up dead dogs&#8217; heads on the ground with pieces of paper in their mouths listing names of Koreans who allegedly collaborated with the Japanese during its 1910-45 colonial rule. Protest organizers said the animals were slaughtered at a restaurant; dogs are regularly consumed as food in Korea.</p></blockquote>
<p>I swear, nobody protests like they do.</p>
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		<title>By: Aceface</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-278364</link>
		<dc:creator>Aceface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-278364</guid>
		<description>My mistake Just confirmed .
AP made an another confusing report.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My mistake Just confirmed .<br />
AP made an another confusing report.</p>
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		<title>By: Aceface</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-278266</link>
		<dc:creator>Aceface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-278266</guid>
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http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/world/AP-Japan-Sex-Slaves.html?_r=1&#38;oref=slogin</description>
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<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/world/AP-Japan-Sex-Slaves.html?_r=1&#038;oref=slogin" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/comment/www.nytimes.com');">http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/world/AP-Japan-Sex-Slaves.html?_r=1&#038;oref=slogin</a></p>
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		<title>By: tomojiro</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-277482</link>
		<dc:creator>tomojiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 08:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-277482</guid>
		<description>Sorry my english sucks.

"a) got their paymens and were working on their own will"

I forgot to add some words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry my english sucks.</p>
<p>&#8220;a) got their paymens and were working on their own will&#8221;</p>
<p>I forgot to add some words.</p>
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		<title>By: tomojiro</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-277478</link>
		<dc:creator>tomojiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 08:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-277478</guid>
		<description>If they don't get paid then thats just rape, I think.

Sorry, my post was confusing. I did'nt mean that "comfort women" in burma had been taken against their will. On the contrary, it seems there are no evidence(yet) that there were any who had been taken against their will. 

By the way, my understanding is that in generall "comfort women" a)got their pay or  b)were working for debts. And additionaly there were some who c) were deceived or kidnapped and forced to prostitute.

Even when all got some payments (debts reducing included), I think b) and  c) would be the trivial case which could be described as "forced prostitution".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they don&#8217;t get paid then thats just rape, I think.</p>
<p>Sorry, my post was confusing. I did&#8217;nt mean that &#8220;comfort women&#8221; in burma had been taken against their will. On the contrary, it seems there are no evidence(yet) that there were any who had been taken against their will.</p>
<p>By the way, my understanding is that in generall &#8220;comfort women&#8221; a)got their pay or  b)were working for debts. And additionaly there were some who c) were deceived or kidnapped and forced to prostitute.</p>
<p>Even when all got some payments (debts reducing included), I think b) and  c) would be the trivial case which could be described as &#8220;forced prostitution&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Aceface</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-277438</link>
		<dc:creator>Aceface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 08:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-277438</guid>
		<description>"Were they given some sort of payment"

A lot more than the prostitute back home.Ever seen the movie
Ã§”¹Â¬Ã§Â«”¹Ã©Â?Å Ã¨Â»Â?Ã©Å¡Å Ã£â‚¬Â?Ã¨Â¥Â¿Ã£Â?Â¸by late Okamoto kihachi in the 60's?There is a sequence that a Korean comfort woman saids" I'm going to start my own shop in Korea  with the money I saved here!"Okamoto is a liberal by the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Were they given some sort of payment&#8221;</p>
<p>A lot more than the prostitute back home.Ever seen the movie<br />
&#195;&#167;&#8221;&#185;&#194;&#172;&#195;&#167;&#194;&#171;&#8221;&#185;&#195;&#169;&#194;?&#197;&#160;&#195;&#168;&#194;&#187;&#194;?&#195;&#169;&#197;&#161;&#197;&#160;&#195;&#163;&#226;&#8218;&#172;&#194;?&#195;&#168;&#194;&#165;&#194;&#191;&#195;&#163;&#194;?&#194;&#184;by late Okamoto kihachi in the 60&#8217;s?There is a sequence that a Korean comfort woman saids&#8221; I&#8217;m going to start my own shop in Korea  with the money I saved here!&#8221;Okamoto is a liberal by the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Aceface</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-277426</link>
		<dc:creator>Aceface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 08:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-277426</guid>
		<description>What I read(long time ago) that Brit had already built railroad in Burma.But none in independent Thailand.River Kwai thing was meant to connect the two country for logistic purpose.
I could be wrong though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I read(long time ago) that Brit had already built railroad in Burma.But none in independent Thailand.River Kwai thing was meant to connect the two country for logistic purpose.<br />
I could be wrong though.</p>
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		<title>By: Mutantfrog</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-277413</link>
		<dc:creator>Mutantfrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 08:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-277413</guid>
		<description>Well, if they don't get paid they can't be called prostitutes. Were they given some sort of payment, even if they had been taken against their will?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if they don&#8217;t get paid they can&#8217;t be called prostitutes. Were they given some sort of payment, even if they had been taken against their will?</p>
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		<title>By: tomojiro</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-277408</link>
		<dc:creator>tomojiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 08:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-277408</guid>
		<description>I've read an essay at "Shukan Kinyobi" (a very controversial left leaning magazine) that in fact it seems that there were burmese "comfort women" but even the reporter who searched british materials said that these burmish comfort women were for burmese soldiers and labors who corporated to Japan.

What I found annoying is the use of the ideological driven word "comfort woman" or "sex slaves". Why not just say simply "forced prostitutes"(Ã¥Â¼Â·Ã¥Ë†Â¶Ã¥Â£Â²Ã¦ËœÂ¥Ã¯Â¼”°</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read an essay at &#8220;Shukan Kinyobi&#8221; (a very controversial left leaning magazine) that in fact it seems that there were burmese &#8220;comfort women&#8221; but even the reporter who searched british materials said that these burmish comfort women were for burmese soldiers and labors who corporated to Japan.</p>
<p>What I found annoying is the use of the ideological driven word &#8220;comfort woman&#8221; or &#8220;sex slaves&#8221;. Why not just say simply &#8220;forced prostitutes&#8221;(&#195;&#165;&#194;&#188;&#194;&#183;&#195;&#165;&#203;&#8224;&#194;&#182;&#195;&#165;&#194;&#163;&#194;&#178;&#195;&#166;&#203;&#339;&#194;&#165;&#195;&#175;&#194;&#188;&#8221;&#176;</p>
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		<title>By: Mutantfrog</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-277407</link>
		<dc:creator>Mutantfrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 08:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-277407</guid>
		<description>Weren't they building the railroad inside Burma also? By the way, I've been to bridge on the river Kwai in Thailand. There's a very strange museum about the forced labor that I need to post photos from some time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weren&#8217;t they building the railroad inside Burma also? By the way, I&#8217;ve been to bridge on the river Kwai in Thailand. There&#8217;s a very strange museum about the forced labor that I need to post photos from some time.</p>
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		<title>By: Aceface</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-277396</link>
		<dc:creator>Aceface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 08:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-277396</guid>
		<description>"they had tens of thousands of forced laborers building a railroad. I would believe that there were also some forced "comfort women,"Â? "

I hate to nit pick but this is mostly in Thai side of the border and yes there could be some comfort stations there for Japanese.But inside of Burma is another story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;they had tens of thousands of forced laborers building a railroad. I would believe that there were also some forced &#8220;comfort women,&#8221;&#194;? &#8221;</p>
<p>I hate to nit pick but this is mostly in Thai side of the border and yes there could be some comfort stations there for Japanese.But inside of Burma is another story.</p>
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		<title>By: lirelou</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-277301</link>
		<dc:creator>lirelou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 07:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-277301</guid>
		<description>I notice on the Frog's website that the Japanese Government has apologized for Korean sex slavery. And, on "Samil" day, which commemorates the 1 Mar 1919 independence demonstrations that shook Korea and prompted the Japanese to try a gentler approach to colonialism (that abruptly ended in 1937). I'm kind of skeptical about Burma as well, given that the "Burmese" supported the Japanese wholeheartedly, if one is to believe GEN. Slim's book. (The upland minorities, such as the Kachin, remained loyal to the British.)

Anyway, by apologizing, Japan has essentially accepted the sex slave arguments, however many may have been "kisaeng".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I notice on the Frog&#8217;s website that the Japanese Government has apologized for Korean sex slavery. And, on &#8220;Samil&#8221; day, which commemorates the 1 Mar 1919 independence demonstrations that shook Korea and prompted the Japanese to try a gentler approach to colonialism (that abruptly ended in 1937). I&#8217;m kind of skeptical about Burma as well, given that the &#8220;Burmese&#8221; supported the Japanese wholeheartedly, if one is to believe <span class="caps">GEN</span>. Slim&#8217;s book. (The upland minorities, such as the Kachin, remained loyal to the British.)</p>
<p>Anyway, by apologizing, Japan has essentially accepted the sex slave arguments, however many may have been &#8220;kisaeng&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mutantfrog</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-277075</link>
		<dc:creator>Mutantfrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 05:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-277075</guid>
		<description>Well, they had tens of thousands of forced laborers building a railroad. I would believe that there were also some forced "comfort women," but I'm not sure if there are actual reports or not. Maybe someone who has a better idea will comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, they had tens of thousands of forced laborers building a railroad. I would believe that there were also some forced &#8220;comfort women,&#8221; but I&#8217;m not sure if there are actual reports or not. Maybe someone who has a better idea will comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Aceface</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-276639</link>
		<dc:creator>Aceface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 01:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-276639</guid>
		<description>"Right, I wouldn't expect people to be saying that, but I would expect kidnap victims to be discussing it."

Yes.And that could be the motivation of these women came out and speak up.But I still expect them to get fund from Asian Women Fund and I don't want focus group to flame their resentment and turn it into political propaganda and nationalistic cause like in case of Korea.

Kind of skeptical on Burma.That was a real war zone.No time for such "comfort".But then again ther is always room for new evidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Right, I wouldn&#8217;t expect people to be saying that, but I would expect kidnap victims to be discussing it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes.And that could be the motivation of these women came out and speak up.But I still expect them to get fund from Asian Women Fund and I don&#8217;t want focus group to flame their resentment and turn it into political propaganda and nationalistic cause like in case of Korea.</p>
<p>Kind of skeptical on Burma.That was a real war zone.No time for such &#8220;comfort&#8221;.But then again ther is always room for new evidence.</p>
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		<title>By: Mutantfrog</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-276268</link>
		<dc:creator>Mutantfrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I hate to be a wise ass,MF.Most people in Asia don't come out and say"Â?I voluntarily served for the Japanese Imperial Army"Â?."
Right, I wouldn't expect people to be saying that, but I would expect kidnap victims to be discussing it.

BTW, I'm not sure about Burma- it's just something I MAY have heard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I hate to be a wise ass,MF.Most people in Asia don&#8217;t come out and say&#8221;&#194;?I voluntarily served for the Japanese Imperial Army&#8221;&#194;?.&#8221;<br />
Right, I wouldn&#8217;t expect people to be saying that, but I would expect kidnap victims to be discussing it.</p>
<p><span class="caps">BTW</span>, I&#8217;m not sure about Burma- it&#8217;s just something <span class="caps">I MAY</span> have heard.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-275986</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-275986</guid>
		<description>Aceface
I won't argue the need for consideration of the wider picture when looking at situations like this. Heck, I just got done trying to argue for just that on the Competing for Genocide thread; either I didn't succeed, or Hellektor doesn't want to listen.*shrug*

At the end of the day, it's just as easy to get lost in the little picture as to get lost in the big.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aceface<br />
I won&#8217;t argue the need for consideration of the wider picture when looking at situations like this. Heck, I just got done trying to argue for just that on the Competing for Genocide thread; either I didn&#8217;t succeed, or Hellektor doesn&#8217;t want to listen.*shrug*</p>
<p>At the end of the day, it&#8217;s just as easy to get lost in the little picture as to get lost in the big.</p>
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		<title>By: Aceface</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-275922</link>
		<dc:creator>Aceface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-275922</guid>
		<description>Michael
I've got it.
Intoxification,I meant is this women who was in Hiroshima when A-Bomb exploded and spend half of her life talking her experience to students coming to peace museum in Hiroshima.This is something I've wrote as comment in Mutanfrog travelogue.
Perhaps I should not write like that in this blog for nobody but MF would understand and get confused with Mutantfrog 's experience of hearing the testimony of the former comfort women.But MF and I are debating from his blog for all day.

I felt this A-bomb victim was kind of intoxificated of talking her victimhood for decades.And many student got so easily effected by her tragedy thus lost historical perspective of A-bomb.Which is,well in my opinion Japan deserved it

It is difficult to take any critical distance if you just listen to the vivid testimony of the actual person who proclaims he or she has first hand experience (normally people do not doubt the accuracy of these testimony especially when you do not know any other knowledge nor alternative viewpoint)thus you accept the ideas of those who set up the testimony in behind,which usually are small focus group with somekind of political intention.Not to say that is wrong nor testimony itself is phony.But I have seen this victim politics over the years.Some were true and others were not.I just have too many questions that are unanswered in this comfort women case.
But then again it is just my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael<br />
I&#8217;ve got it.<br />
Intoxification,I meant is this women who was in Hiroshima when A-Bomb exploded and spend half of her life talking her experience to students coming to peace museum in Hiroshima.This is something I&#8217;ve wrote as comment in Mutanfrog travelogue.<br />
Perhaps I should not write like that in this blog for nobody but MF would understand and get confused with Mutantfrog &#8217;s experience of hearing the testimony of the former comfort women.But MF and I are debating from his blog for all day.</p>
<p>I felt this A-bomb victim was kind of intoxificated of talking her victimhood for decades.And many student got so easily effected by her tragedy thus lost historical perspective of A-bomb.Which is,well in my opinion Japan deserved it</p>
<p>It is difficult to take any critical distance if you just listen to the vivid testimony of the actual person who proclaims he or she has first hand experience (normally people do not doubt the accuracy of these testimony especially when you do not know any other knowledge nor alternative viewpoint)thus you accept the ideas of those who set up the testimony in behind,which usually are small focus group with somekind of political intention.Not to say that is wrong nor testimony itself is phony.But I have seen this victim politics over the years.Some were true and others were not.I just have too many questions that are unanswered in this comfort women case.<br />
But then again it is just my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-275906</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-275906</guid>
		<description>Oops, my apologies. I misread the part about where you wrote about meeting an A bomb victim. As for the part about drinking. . .

". . .and saw some sort of intoxication in her eyes,I'm a bit reluctant to find these "Meet the Victims"Â? kind testimony at face value."

You didn't say drunk, but if one assumes intoxication to mean altered by drugs, then alcohol is the likeliest suspect. My comments about comfort women were also a bit sloppy (my attention is divided right now), but they apply equally to someone who lived through Hiroshima or Nagasaki; if BAREFOOT GEN is accurate, I can easily see a survivor having a drinking problem for decades afterward. I wouldn't wish those kinds of memories on my worst enemy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, my apologies. I misread the part about where you wrote about meeting an A bomb victim. As for the part about drinking. . .</p>
<p>&#8220;. . .and saw some sort of intoxication in her eyes,I&#8217;m a bit reluctant to find these &#8220;Meet the Victims&#8221;&#194;? kind testimony at face value.&#8221;</p>
<p>You didn&#8217;t say drunk, but if one assumes intoxication to mean altered by drugs, then alcohol is the likeliest suspect. My comments about comfort women were also a bit sloppy (my attention is divided right now), but they apply equally to someone who lived through Hiroshima or Nagasaki; if <span class="caps">BAREFOOT GEN</span> is accurate, I can easily see a survivor having a drinking problem for decades afterward. I wouldn&#8217;t wish those kinds of memories on my worst enemy.</p>
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		<title>By: Aceface</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-275852</link>
		<dc:creator>Aceface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-275852</guid>
		<description>I don't have any blog,Michael and did I say anything about women getting drunk?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have any blog,Michael and did I say anything about women getting drunk?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-275824</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-275824</guid>
		<description>Aceface
I haven't read your blog (you don't link to it) so I can't judge. I can easily see, though, where a forced sex worker probably would get drunk before testifying. If she spent years trying hard to bury those memories so she can get from day to day, getting drunk may be the only way she could stand to unbury them again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aceface<br />
I haven&#8217;t read your blog (you don&#8217;t link to it) so I can&#8217;t judge. I can easily see, though, where a forced sex worker probably would get drunk before testifying. If she spent years trying hard to bury those memories so she can get from day to day, getting drunk may be the only way she could stand to unbury them again.</p>
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		<title>By: Aceface</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-275510</link>
		<dc:creator>Aceface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-275510</guid>
		<description>Never heard about Burmese being comfort women.new knowledge.
Were they not just abducted and raped by J-soldiers?

"The testimony I've heard from Taiwanese and Koreans all tell stories of being tricked in some way and then not being allowed to leave. "
I hate to be a wise ass,MF.Most people in Asia don't come out and say"I voluntarily served for the Japanese Imperial Army".
Especially when your job was a sex worker.And as I wrote in your blog about my experience with talking to A-bomb victim in one of the peace education class and saw some sort of intoxication in her eyes,I'm a bit reluctant to find these "Meet the Victims" kind testimony at face value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never heard about Burmese being comfort women.new knowledge.<br />
Were they not just abducted and raped by J-soldiers?</p>
<p>&#8220;The testimony I&#8217;ve heard from Taiwanese and Koreans all tell stories of being tricked in some way and then not being allowed to leave. &#8221;<br />
I hate to be a wise ass,MF.Most people in Asia don&#8217;t come out and say&#8221;I voluntarily served for the Japanese Imperial Army&#8221;.<br />
Especially when your job was a sex worker.And as I wrote in your blog about my experience with talking to A-bomb victim in one of the peace education class and saw some sort of intoxication in her eyes,I&#8217;m a bit reluctant to find these &#8220;Meet the Victims&#8221; kind testimony at face value.</p>
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		<title>By: Mutantfrog</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-275452</link>
		<dc:creator>Mutantfrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://cominganarchy.com/2007/02/26/pot-kettle-black-slavery-and-comfort-women/#comment-275452</guid>
		<description>"Hey,You've already said what I wanted to say,MF.
Every individuals have different cases.Not all were enforced to work as the comfort women."
I didn't mean to imply that all or even most of them were physically kidnapped. However, I see that I accidentally typed an extra "the" which make my earlier comment kind of ambiguous, so apologies if you thought that was what I was saying.

"One of the letter that I mentioned in the blog of yours(and that is used as a proof of official intrusion of the military by the focus groups)is warning for choosing the "right"Â?recruiters when they make contract because some were notorious kidnappers (as rightly you've mentioned above)So,tricked maybe,kidnapped I highly doubt about that in case of Japanese ,Taiwanese and Korean comfort women."
I actually think I read a paper by professor Ã¦Â°Â¸Ã¤Âº”¢Ã¥'Å’ from Kyodai analyzing that letter.

The reports of actual kidnapping by Japanese military that I recall were in Indonesia, Philippines, China, maybe Burma. The testimony I've heard from Taiwanese and Koreans all tell stories of being tricked in some way and then not being allowed to leave. Maybe they were beaten in the comfort station, but at least they went peacefully in the beginning because they expected to be working some sort of legitimate job. Obviously these were pretty naive girls, from very poor families.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hey,You&#8217;ve already said what I wanted to say,MF.<br />
Every individuals have different cases.Not all were enforced to work as the comfort women.&#8221;<br />
I didn&#8217;t mean to imply that all or even most of them were physically kidnapped. However, I see that I accidentally typed an extra &#8220;the&#8221; which make my earlier comment kind of ambiguous, so apologies if you thought that was what I was saying.</p>
<p>&#8220;One of the letter that I mentioned in the blog of yours(and that is used as a proof of official intrusion of the military by the focus groups)is warning for choosing the &#8220;right&#8221;&#194;?recruiters when they make contract because some were notorious kidnappers (as rightly you&#8217;ve mentioned above)So,tricked maybe,kidnapped I highly doubt about that in case of Japanese ,Taiwanese and Korean comfort women.&#8221;<br />
I actually think I read a paper by professor &#195;&#166;&#194;&#176;&#194;&#184;&#195;&#164;&#194;&#186;&#8221;&#162;&#195;&#165;&#8217;&#197;&#8217; from Kyodai analyzing that letter.</p>
<p>The reports of actual kidnapping by Japanese military that I recall were in Indonesia, Philippines, China, maybe Burma. The testimony I&#8217;ve heard from Taiwanese and Koreans all tell stories of being tricked in some way and then not being allowed to leave. Maybe they were beaten in the comfort station, but at least they went peacefully in the beginning because they expected to be working some sort of legitimate job. Obviously these were pretty naive girls, from very poor families.</p>
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