Comments on: EU Growing Pains http://cominganarchy.com/2007/01/05/eu-growing-pains/ Speak Victorian, Think Pagan Thu, 08 Jan 2009 19:07:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: IJ http://cominganarchy.com/2007/01/05/eu-growing-pains/comment-page-1/#comment-224896 IJ Sun, 07 Jan 2007 18:54:28 +0000 http://www.cominganarchy.com/?p=2417#comment-224896 I looked up "Internet trolling". Wikipedia explains": "Internet trolling involves a user making comments intended to provoke an angry response." The essence of your indignant comments seems to be the assertion that protectionism by some is rife, is long-standing, and is growing. I looked up “Internet trolling”. Wikipedia explains”: “Internet trolling involves a user making comments intended to provoke an angry response.”

The essence of your indignant comments seems to be the assertion that protectionism by some is rife, is long-standing, and is growing.

]]> By: Dan tdaxp http://cominganarchy.com/2007/01/05/eu-growing-pains/comment-page-1/#comment-224870 Dan tdaxp Sun, 07 Jan 2007 18:30:16 +0000 http://www.cominganarchy.com/?p=2417#comment-224870 <i>You suggest that the destruction of the world's monetary discipline (Bretton Woods) was not a protectionist measure. Y</i> Really? Where? You're jumping to conclusions. <i>You also suggest that an EU/US economic zone will not be protectionist. </i> You jump in your rhetoric. Before, you said "Economic protectionism is on the increase" and "the West wants more protectionism." I'm not sure how lower tarrifs between the US and the EU amounts to more protectionism. You seem concern that because <i>any</i> trade barriers exist against <i>any</i> state, this is protectionism... more protectionism. I take it when taxes are cut, you complain about "more taxes," and when prices are cut, you complain about "more prices," because some still exist. You suggest that the destruction of the world’s monetary discipline (Bretton Woods) was not a protectionist measure. Y

Really? Where? You’re jumping to conclusions.

You also suggest that an EU/US economic zone will not be protectionist.

You jump in your rhetoric. Before, you said “Economic protectionism is on the increase” and “the West wants more protectionism.” I’m not sure how lower tarrifs between the US and the EU amounts to more protectionism. You seem concern that because any trade barriers exist against any state, this is protectionism… more protectionism.

I take it when taxes are cut, you complain about “more taxes,” and when prices are cut, you complain about “more prices,” because some still exist.

]]> By: IJ http://cominganarchy.com/2007/01/05/eu-growing-pains/comment-page-1/#comment-224795 IJ Sun, 07 Jan 2007 17:14:35 +0000 http://www.cominganarchy.com/?p=2417#comment-224795 You suggest that the destruction of the world's monetary discipline (Bretton Woods) was not a protectionist measure. You also suggest that an EU/US economic zone will not be protectionist. Therefore we disagree. The stalled WTO talks at Doha are yet another example, Dan. You suggest that the destruction of the world’s monetary discipline (Bretton Woods) was not a protectionist measure. You also suggest that an EU/US economic zone will not be protectionist. Therefore we disagree.

The stalled WTO talks at Doha are yet another example, Dan.

]]> By: Dan tdaxp http://cominganarchy.com/2007/01/05/eu-growing-pains/comment-page-1/#comment-224794 Dan tdaxp Sun, 07 Jan 2007 17:04:21 +0000 http://www.cominganarchy.com/?p=2417#comment-224794 IJ, I hope you are not trolling, but I have to ask again: <i>What are you talking about</i>? You have cited two examples of economic integration and claimed they are examples of economic protectionism. How so? IJ,

I hope you are not trolling, but I have to ask again: What are you talking about? You have cited two examples of economic integration and claimed they are examples of economic protectionism. How so?

]]> By: IJ http://cominganarchy.com/2007/01/05/eu-growing-pains/comment-page-1/#comment-224793 IJ Sun, 07 Jan 2007 17:02:10 +0000 http://www.cominganarchy.com/?p=2417#comment-224793 _Mrs Merkel told the FT that her ambition was to create a single transatlantic market for investors. Such a market would have common rules and standards in a number of areas, including intellectual property and financial regulation._ Economic protectionism is on the increase in many ways, Dan. And by popular demand - such is democracy. There are numerous examples, including the destruction of monetary discipline in the world (Bretton Woods) by introducing floating exchange rates over 30 years ago. Mrs Merkel told the FT that her ambition was to create a single transatlantic market for investors. Such a market would have common rules and standards in a number of areas, including intellectual property and financial regulation.

Economic protectionism is on the increase in many ways, Dan. And by popular demand – such is democracy. There are numerous examples, including the destruction of monetary discipline in the world (Bretton Woods) by introducing floating exchange rates over 30 years ago.

]]> By: ComingAnarchy.com » Blog Archive » Where is Europe? http://cominganarchy.com/2007/01/05/eu-growing-pains/comment-page-1/#comment-224782 ComingAnarchy.com » Blog Archive » Where is Europe? Sun, 07 Jan 2007 16:42:50 +0000 http://www.cominganarchy.com/?p=2417#comment-224782 [...] The comments are well worth reading, and thought-provoking. As Bulgaria and Romania joined the EU this month, we must wonder how far the EU can expand. Morocco applied to join the European Community in 1987 but was rejected on the grounds that it was not in Europe. Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova, Armenia, Azerbaijan, and even Kazakhstan have expressed varying levels of interest in membership, although none have submitted formal applications and none are expected to in the near future. What say you? [...] [...] The comments are well worth reading, and thought-provoking. As Bulgaria and Romania joined the EU this month, we must wonder how far the EU can expand. Morocco applied to join the European Community in 1987 but was rejected on the grounds that it was not in Europe. Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova, Armenia, Azerbaijan, and even Kazakhstan have expressed varying levels of interest in membership, although none have submitted formal applications and none are expected to in the near future. What say you? [...]

]]> By: Dan tdaxp http://cominganarchy.com/2007/01/05/eu-growing-pains/comment-page-1/#comment-224688 Dan tdaxp Sun, 07 Jan 2007 14:30:40 +0000 http://www.cominganarchy.com/?p=2417#comment-224688 IJ What are you talking about ? The link implies the opposite of what you argue. (This is an honest question.) IJ What are you talking about ? The link implies the opposite of what you argue. (This is an honest question.)

]]> By: IJ http://cominganarchy.com/2007/01/05/eu-growing-pains/comment-page-1/#comment-224540 IJ Sun, 07 Jan 2007 10:09:06 +0000 http://www.cominganarchy.com/?p=2417#comment-224540 Signs that the West wants "more protectionism":http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/6227613.stm in the global economy, per an interview with the FT. Germany will be very influential in 2007 in chairing the G8 and the EU. What exactly will Germany propose? The G8 has no permanent executive. However Toronto University have researched and set out Germany's tentative agenda "here":http://www.g8.utoronto.ca/evaluations/2007heiligendamm/2007agenda.html#_edn25 Concern for the social dimensions of globalisation is a new theme. Signs that the West wants more protectionism in the global economy, per an interview with the FT. Germany will be very influential in 2007 in chairing the G8 and the EU.

What exactly will Germany propose? The G8 has no permanent executive. However Toronto University have researched and set out Germany’s tentative agenda here Concern for the social dimensions of globalisation is a new theme.

]]> By: Dan tdaxp http://cominganarchy.com/2007/01/05/eu-growing-pains/comment-page-1/#comment-224085 Dan tdaxp Sat, 06 Jan 2007 15:15:07 +0000 http://www.cominganarchy.com/?p=2417#comment-224085 This is very good news., speeding the effects of globalization just as the EU's earlier enlargement (and NAFTA's rise) did as well. It continues to put Eastern-Europe's low labor costs with Western-Europe's low capital costs. It also demonstrates how Europe can import labor without the cultural or political problems associated with large-scale Muslim immigration. This is very good news., speeding the effects of globalization just as the EU’s earlier enlargement (and NAFTA’s rise) did as well. It continues to put Eastern-Europe’s low labor costs with Western-Europe’s low capital costs. It also demonstrates how Europe can import labor without the cultural or political problems associated with large-scale Muslim immigration.

]]> By: IJ http://cominganarchy.com/2007/01/05/eu-growing-pains/comment-page-1/#comment-223230 IJ Fri, 05 Jan 2007 11:00:07 +0000 http://www.cominganarchy.com/?p=2417#comment-223230 What does constant enlargement mean for the EU's future? It slows the effects of economic globalisation. And the current trend is towards protectionism. A big political grouping like the EU is more able to impose restrictions on the movement of capital, goods and labour. Moreover the bigger the grouping, the better. Protectionism is the theme of "an article today":http://www.ft.com/cms/s/bddfc502-9c30-11db-9c9b-0000779e2340.html by the director of international economics at the US Council on Foreign Relations. He also doubts whether floating exchange rates, 'protectionism' introduced in the 1970's, helps the global economy. What does constant enlargement mean for the EU’s future?

It slows the effects of economic globalisation. And the current trend is towards protectionism. A big political grouping like the EU is more able to impose restrictions on the movement of capital, goods and labour. Moreover the bigger the grouping, the better.

Protectionism is the theme of an article today by the director of international economics at the US Council on Foreign Relations. He also doubts whether floating exchange rates, ‘protectionism’ introduced in the 1970’s, helps the global economy.

]]> By: Rommel http://cominganarchy.com/2007/01/05/eu-growing-pains/comment-page-1/#comment-223128 Rommel Fri, 05 Jan 2007 08:01:28 +0000 http://www.cominganarchy.com/?p=2417#comment-223128 My understanding of EU accession politics is limited but frankly I am suprised to see Bulgaria and Romania get in before Croatia. I expect Croatia would integrate into the Union almost as well as Slovenia. Also, it will likely be the last nation to join for some time if not forever. Turkey may as well forget about it and move on. My understanding of EU accession politics is limited but frankly I am suprised to see Bulgaria and Romania get in before Croatia. I expect Croatia would integrate into the Union almost as well as Slovenia. Also, it will likely be the last nation to join for some time if not forever.
Turkey may as well forget about it and move on.

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