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		<title>By: lirelou</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2006/11/26/trotskys-shadow/comment-page-1/#comment-170949</link>
		<dc:creator>lirelou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2006 23:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point, Gregg. And, of course, Trotsky was the founder of the Red Army, which was undergoing purges of its own as Stalin&#039;s henchmen tried to kill Trotsky. Interestingly enough, one of the early attempts involved a gang of Mexican communists led by one of the country&#039;s great muralists. Ironic, given that Trotskyt&#039;s sponsors in Mexico were Diego Rivera and his wife. Ah, Dr. Alfred. I believe the &quot;pick&quot; in question was the mountain climbers pick, as opposed to the equally deadly but more common ice pick. I visited Trotsky&#039;s house twice while I lived in Mexico. Of course, Stalin wasn&#039;t out just to kill Trotsky, as much as he was out to liquidate all non-Commintern communists, then labelled &quot;Troskyites&quot;, as witness the clandestine campaign in Spain to eliminate the P.O.U.M. This last when the Spanish Republic needed all the combat troops it could get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, Gregg. And, of course, Trotsky was the founder of the Red Army, which was undergoing purges of its own as Stalin&#8217;s henchmen tried to kill Trotsky. Interestingly enough, one of the early attempts involved a gang of Mexican communists led by one of the country&#8217;s great muralists. Ironic, given that Trotskyt&#8217;s sponsors in Mexico were Diego Rivera and his wife. Ah, Dr. Alfred. I believe the &#8220;pick&#8221; in question was the mountain climbers pick, as opposed to the equally deadly but more common ice pick. I visited Trotsky&#8217;s house twice while I lived in Mexico. Of course, Stalin wasn&#8217;t out just to kill Trotsky, as much as he was out to liquidate all non-Commintern communists, then labelled &#8220;Troskyites&#8221;, as witness the clandestine campaign in Spain to eliminate the <span class="caps">P.O.U.M.</span> This last when the Spanish Republic needed all the combat troops it could get.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dr. Alfred Russel Wallace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Alfred Russel Wallace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2006 23:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gregg - I agree that the analogy seems better drawn between Trotsky and Litvinenko. But perhaps the prediction is that Berezovsky will have a future rendezvous with an ice-pick......  certainly I wouldn&#039;t recommend underwriting life insurance...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gregg &#8211; I agree that the analogy seems better drawn between Trotsky and Litvinenko. But perhaps the prediction is that Berezovsky will have a future rendezvous with an ice-pick&#8230;&#8230;  certainly I wouldn&#8217;t recommend underwriting life insurance&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Gregg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure what qualifications Mr Turkestansky has to offer to support his comparison between Mr Berezovsky and dissident Trotsky, but in my humble opinion, such a comparison is frankly absurd. Trotsky was a prominent politician with a considerable following both in the young Soviet republic as well as abroad. Although the magnitude of the threat that his work posed was probably exagerated in Stalin&#039;s paranoid mind&#039;s eye, he was nonthelless a very real threat to the stability of the country as well as to the Party&#039;s monopoly on communism. Mr Berezovsky on the other hand, having wrecked considerable damage in his heyday is now merely a criminal who has quite skillfully managed to escape punishment. Not a political threat.

As for the suggestion that Berezovsky is behind the murder, that is ofcourse (as any other theory at this point) blind speculation. However, such speculation would not be as unfounded as it may seem. Am I the only one around today who remembers the days when Mr Berezovsky operated? How many people has he dispatched back in the not so distant 90s?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure what qualifications Mr Turkestansky has to offer to support his comparison between Mr Berezovsky and dissident Trotsky, but in my humble opinion, such a comparison is frankly absurd. Trotsky was a prominent politician with a considerable following both in the young Soviet republic as well as abroad. Although the magnitude of the threat that his work posed was probably exagerated in Stalin&#8217;s paranoid mind&#8217;s eye, he was nonthelless a very real threat to the stability of the country as well as to the Party&#8217;s monopoly on communism. Mr Berezovsky on the other hand, having wrecked considerable damage in his heyday is now merely a criminal who has quite skillfully managed to escape punishment. Not a political threat.</p>

<p>As for the suggestion that Berezovsky is behind the murder, that is ofcourse (as any other theory at this point) blind speculation. However, such speculation would not be as unfounded as it may seem. Am I the only one around today who remembers the days when Mr Berezovsky operated? How many people has he dispatched back in the not so distant 90s?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: subadei</title>
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		<dc:creator>subadei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2006 14:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What about old KGB elements&quot;:http://www.axisglobe.com/article.asp?article=1141

_Security analyst Glenmore Trenear-Harvey, who met Litvinenko several times, said the media focus on the Kremlin was &quot;lazy&quot; and bore the hallmarks of a John Le Carre novel. &quot;We have to put this in a historical context,&quot; he is quoted by BBC as saying. &quot;Litvinenko&#039;s last job within the FSB was heading up the anti-corruption unit and he discovered a lot of corruption there and made a lot of enemies within the KGB.&quot; &quot;My own belief, and this is speculation, is that it&#039;s not inconceivable that Anna Politkovskaya in her search for murderers within the Russian bank system discovered the contract killings were these former KGB people. &quot;She was killed and if Litvinenko indeed was privy to her investigations then it could well be that they will emerge as his killers.&quot; Although the sophisticated nature of the poison suggested it could have come from the state, there was no motive, he said._</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.axisglobe.com/article.asp?article=1141">What about old <span class="caps">KGB </span>elements</a></p>

<p><em>Security analyst Glenmore Trenear-Harvey, who met Litvinenko several times, said the media focus on the Kremlin was &#8220;lazy&#8221; and bore the hallmarks of a John Le Carre novel. &#8220;We have to put this in a historical context,&#8221; he is quoted by <span class="caps">BBC </span>as saying. &#8220;Litvinenko&#8217;s last job within the <span class="caps">FSB </span>was heading up the anti-corruption unit and he discovered a lot of corruption there and made a lot of enemies within the <span class="caps">KGB.</span>&#8221; &#8220;My own belief, and this is speculation, is that it&#8217;s not inconceivable that Anna Politkovskaya in her search for murderers within the Russian bank system discovered the contract killings were these former <span class="caps">KGB </span>people. &#8220;She was killed and if Litvinenko indeed was privy to her investigations then it could well be that they will emerge as his killers.&#8221; Although the sophisticated nature of the poison suggested it could have come from the state, there was no motive, he said.</em></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: von Kaufman-Turkestansky</title>
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		<dc:creator>von Kaufman-Turkestansky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2006 12:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rommel: it looks as though you are right. The Independent sums up the case nicely, as well as 4 main theories:

1) Moscow did it (the victim&#039;s own theory, also the one held out by his friends)
2) Rogue FSB elements (also damaging to Putin&#039;s government, suggesting a lack of control; but it explains the lurid nature of the death better)
3) Berezovsky is responsible (the Kremlin&#039;s favorite theory... if there is a Trotsky analogue nowadays, it&#039;s Berezovsky. But the theory seems too weird).
4) Suicide, or &quot;martyrdom&quot; (I have trouble believing that one. To knowingly ingest plutonium? But the police are at least looking at that scenario as an alternative, according to the paper).
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article2016152.ece . 

We&#039;ll see what the investigation leads to (this will be an interesting test for CCTV). If you made me guess, I would guess scenario 2. The Russian public will be more inclined to believe the Berezovsky theory, not simply due to restrictions on press freedom, but becuase he is percieved as such a slimeball by the Russian public (with reason). In any case, the affair is not good for Putin. The regime has made itself look suspicious in the way it has evolved over the last 6 years, so they can&#039;t really blame anyone for the way they look right now but themselves. And ultimately, culture is stronger than ideology. Russia&#039;s own history (which Curzon has pointed out) has many episodes of exile and assassination of &quot;traitors&quot;, whether under the Tsars, Bolsheviks, or the post-Soviet era.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rommel: it looks as though you are right. The Independent sums up the case nicely, as well as 4 main theories:</p>

<p>1) Moscow did it (the victim&#8217;s own theory, also the one held out by his friends)<br />
2) Rogue <span class="caps">FSB </span>elements (also damaging to Putin&#8217;s government, suggesting a lack of control; but it explains the lurid nature of the death better)<br />
3) Berezovsky is responsible (the Kremlin&#8217;s favorite theory&#8230; if there is a Trotsky analogue nowadays, it&#8217;s Berezovsky. But the theory seems too weird).<br />
4) Suicide, or &#8220;martyrdom&#8221; (I have trouble believing that one. To knowingly ingest plutonium? But the police are at least looking at that scenario as an alternative, according to the paper).<br />
<a href="http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article2016152.ece">http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article2016152.ece</a> . </p>

<p>We&#8217;ll see what the investigation leads to (this will be an interesting test for <span class="caps">CCTV</span>). If you made me guess, I would guess scenario 2. The Russian public will be more inclined to believe the Berezovsky theory, not simply due to restrictions on press freedom, but becuase he is percieved as such a slimeball by the Russian public (with reason). In any case, the affair is not good for Putin. The regime has made itself look suspicious in the way it has evolved over the last 6 years, so they can&#8217;t really blame anyone for the way they look right now but themselves. And ultimately, culture is stronger than ideology. Russia&#8217;s own history (which Curzon has pointed out) has many episodes of exile and assassination of &#8220;traitors&#8221;, whether under the Tsars, Bolsheviks, or the post-Soviet era.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Chirol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chirol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2006 12:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rommel: Yeah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rommel: Yeah</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Rommel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rommel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2006 08:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hasn&#039;t it been confirmed he did not die of thalium poisoning but instead was subjected to lethal doses of radioactive polonium?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hasn&#8217;t it been confirmed he did not die of thalium poisoning but instead was subjected to lethal doses of radioactive polonium?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: mark safranski</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark safranski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2006 04:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice Curzon. I feel compelled...to respond ! :o)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice Curzon. I feel compelled&#8230;to respond ! :o)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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