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	<title>Comments on: Buddy Christ in&#160;Iraq</title>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2006/10/04/buddy-christ-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-134036</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 20:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mean, what to do besides going on television and explaining that this picture of Jesus was not meant to be derogatory, that the thumbs up means something else in America, and that if they don&#039;t believe it, there&#039;s nothing much we can say?

Maybe they could show the movie on television.

Despite the fact that Jesus is a &quot;major prophet&quot; in Islam, it&#039;s not true that fanatical Muslims would react against His defamation.  We know this because they don&#039;t seem to have any issues whatsoever about the DaVinci code, pissing-on-Christ &quot;art&quot;, etc.  If they cared, they&#039;d have spoken out.  Show the movie already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean, what to do besides going on television and explaining that this picture of Jesus was not meant to be derogatory, that the thumbs up means something else in America, and that if they don&#8217;t believe it, there&#8217;s nothing much we can say?</p>

<p>Maybe they could show the movie on television.</p>

<p>Despite the fact that Jesus is a &#8220;major prophet&#8221; in Islam, it&#8217;s not true that fanatical Muslims would react against His defamation.  We know this because they don&#8217;t seem to have any issues whatsoever about the DaVinci code, pissing-on-Christ &#8220;art&#8221;, etc.  If they cared, they&#8217;d have spoken out.  Show the movie already.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Plunge</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2006/10/04/buddy-christ-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-133454</link>
		<dc:creator>Plunge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 00:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello guys, it&#039;s been a while. I read this post and thought I would comment. When Operation Give was going fullblast, we must have had over 5000 Jesus Buddy dolls sent to us despite our pleas to leave religious items out. We pulled all of them out and gave them to a local religious group who were happy to accept them. 

It really got to be frustrating how people would try and sneak religious items past us. I actually found a cross sewn into a teddy bear!

I am a very religious person, but I understand that it has its time and place and this was neither. Unfortunately, not everyone understood that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello guys, it&#8217;s been a while. I read this post and thought I would comment. When Operation Give was going fullblast, we must have had over 5000 Jesus Buddy dolls sent to us despite our pleas to leave religious items out. We pulled all of them out and gave them to a local religious group who were happy to accept them. </p>

<p>It really got to be frustrating how people would try and sneak religious items past us. I actually found a cross sewn into a teddy bear!</p>

<p>I am a very religious person, but I understand that it has its time and place and this was neither. Unfortunately, not everyone understood that.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2006/10/04/buddy-christ-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-133444</link>
		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 23:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Thumbs up&#039; is a derogatory emblem in Iraq</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Thumbs up&#8217; is a derogatory emblem in Iraq</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Gollios</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2006/10/04/buddy-christ-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-133389</link>
		<dc:creator>Gollios</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 20:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone remember the Bin Laden/Elmo picture that showed up in some protests post 9-11?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone remember the Bin Laden/Elmo picture that showed up in some protests post 9-11?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: arherring</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2006/10/04/buddy-christ-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-133247</link>
		<dc:creator>arherring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 12:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you explain a joke to somebody who has no sense of humor?

How do you convince people who read conspiracy and secret arrangements into almost everything that this is a crudely executed smear campaign?

Iraqis at one point believed that the sunglasses our soldiers were wearing allowed them X-ray vision and were able to see through the robes of women.
I even once knew a guy from Jordan (an engineer) who while living in the U.S. would repeatedly flash his high-beam headlights when he came to a red light at an intersection because he believed that the light would change due to some sort of sensor system that would allow emergency vehicles to pass quickly by changing the light to green. When it obviously didn&#039;t work and in spite of many explinations such a system didn&#039;t exist he merely maintained that we were all fools and he just wasn&#039;t blinking them at the proper frequency.

I don&#039;t know if it is cultural or something but in this case the only thing I think you can do is laugh at it and pass out copies of the movie (shouldn&#039;t be hard, I understand bootlegging over there is rampant.) Even catching the guys who did it and having them confess to it in public will be included into the conspiracy.

The last thing people with this mindset will do is admit they are wrong about anything but they will eventually drop something if they think it is getting them laughed at. They will still maintain they are right even knowing they are wrong, but they won&#039;t force the issue unless you do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you explain a joke to somebody who has no sense of humor?</p>

<p>How do you convince people who read conspiracy and secret arrangements into almost everything that this is a crudely executed smear campaign?</p>

<p>Iraqis at one point believed that the sunglasses our soldiers were wearing allowed them X-ray vision and were able to see through the robes of women.<br />
I even once knew a guy from Jordan (an engineer) who while living in the <span class="caps">U.S. </span>would repeatedly flash his high-beam headlights when he came to a red light at an intersection because he believed that the light would change due to some sort of sensor system that would allow emergency vehicles to pass quickly by changing the light to green. When it obviously didn&#8217;t work and in spite of many explinations such a system didn&#8217;t exist he merely maintained that we were all fools and he just wasn&#8217;t blinking them at the proper frequency.</p>

<p>I don&#8217;t know if it is cultural or something but in this case the only thing I think you can do is laugh at it and pass out copies of the movie (shouldn&#8217;t be hard, I understand bootlegging over there is rampant.) Even catching the guys who did it and having them confess to it in public will be included into the conspiracy.</p>

<p>The last thing people with this mindset will do is admit they are wrong about anything but they will eventually drop something if they think it is getting them laughed at. They will still maintain they are right even knowing they are wrong, but they won&#8217;t force the issue unless you do.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Younghusband</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2006/10/04/buddy-christ-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-132935</link>
		<dc:creator>Younghusband</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 02:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason I ask the question, Curzon, is because this is almost exactly the situation we had to deal with in a recent wargame I attended. This is the kind of stuff we are trying to figure out how to defend against.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason I ask the question, Curzon, is because this is almost exactly the situation we had to deal with in a recent wargame I attended. This is the kind of stuff we are trying to figure out how to defend against.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Curzon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curzon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2006 23:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the reason there are so few comments is because Younghusband asks a question I have no idea how to answer.  

It is a damaging incident, whether its an attack or not.  What can you do?  Show the movie?? Or explain that this is a domestic, self-deprecating humor?  Would they buy that, or be appalled by it?  It&#039;s hard to tell.  But regardless, you&#039;d think that this is a case where clearly the truth is on our side.  

Kevin Smith on the incident: &quot;It&#039;s a bummer that the Buddy Christ - meant as a symbol of a non-judgmental, forward-thinking, fictional version of the Catholic church - is being linked to something like this. God-willing, it doesn&#039;t go further than this&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the reason there are so few comments is because Younghusband asks a question I have no idea how to answer.  </p>

<p>It is a damaging incident, whether its an attack or not.  What can you do?  Show the movie?? Or explain that this is a domestic, self-deprecating humor?  Would they buy that, or be appalled by it?  It&#8217;s hard to tell.  But regardless, you&#8217;d think that this is a case where clearly the truth is on our side.  </p>

<p>Kevin Smith on the incident: &#8220;It&#8217;s a bummer that the Buddy Christ &#8211; meant as a symbol of a non-judgmental, forward-thinking, fictional version of the Catholic church &#8211; is being linked to something like this. God-willing, it doesn&#8217;t go further than this&#8221;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2006/10/04/buddy-christ-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-132741</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2006 16:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They do view Jesus as a major prophet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They do view Jesus as a major prophet.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2006 15:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The buddy christ is from the Kevin Smith movie Dogma.  The building behind buddy JC is a Catholic church from New Jersey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The buddy christ is from the Kevin Smith movie Dogma.  The building behind buddy JC is a Catholic church from New Jersey.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dan tdaxp</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2006/10/04/buddy-christ-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-132581</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan tdaxp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2006 04:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shia iconography is just &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2005/03/03/religious_freedom_in_east_arabia_-_or_-_the_saudis_are_jerks.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;repackaged Catholic hagiography&lt;/a&gt; (literally, as the Spanish Jews expelled by Ferdinand found a market by adjusting their Passion Plays for a new audience), so it&#039;s an obvious mistake to make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shia iconography is just <a href="http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2005/03/03/religious_freedom_in_east_arabia_-_or_-_the_saudis_are_jerks.html">repackaged Catholic hagiography</a> (literally, as the Spanish Jews expelled by Ferdinand found a market by adjusting their Passion Plays for a new audience), so it&#8217;s an obvious mistake to make.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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