This weekend I listened to Robert Spencer on C-SPAN’s Q & A hosted by the brilliant Brian Lamb. Spencer is a theological academic who specializes in Islam and Jihad. He runs a website called Jihad Watch which he uses as a platform for fighting so-called politically correct attitudes toward Islam that are expressed by today’s politicians. Spencer has made it his mission to tell the American public the “truth” about the underlying militarist and hegemonic aims of Islam. He quotes verse and chapter to prove his point.
Mr. Spencer is undoubtedly highly educated, but somehow I think he has missed the boat. Even if he is correct, the rhetoric of the politicians is as much for them as it is for us. Remember, “Think Pagan, Speak Victorian.” Mr. Spencer seems so intent to disrupt the IO campaign that is reminds me of the old Generals For Peace movement in the 1980’s that was funded by the Sovs. For such a smart guy, how can he not see what he is doing?
A bit of a rebuttal to Mr. Spencer’s views can be heard in the following Q & A with Ambassador Akbar Ahmed, Ibn Khaldun Chair of Islamic Studies, American University, another very interesting program.
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alec added these pithy words on 27 Aug 06 at 4:48 pmI don’t mean to be abrasive, but people like Mr. Spencer are irrelevant for a reason: because they should be. Have you looked at his website? His links and referrers are from places like FrontPageMag, Israeli American patriot, LittleGreenFootball, etc. I don’t want to presume guilt by assocation, but the content of the site proves it. Pro-Israel, neoconservative propoganda that gets masquared as academic research and serious reporting? The content of his site rarely reaches past Islam + Islam followers = terrorism. I’m for an open debate, including the role of religion in facilitating agregious actions, and don’t hold myself to whatever PC bias we are supposedly afflected with (and it’s laughable to me personally to think that Westerners are somehow more PC then prejudiced on this subject to begin with). Yes, Islam is a part of the equation, but there are more weighted variables in my opinion to what exists.
moorethanthis added these pithy words on 27 Aug 06 at 6:11 pmAlec: Quite. Far too much of the public discussion of the war on terror is nothing to do with the actual situation and more to do with “Oh no, Muslims are going to get us!” rhetoric.
Dr. Alfred Russel Wallace added these pithy words on 27 Aug 06 at 7:08 pmBut it was good to see ‘Undercover federal air marshals will no longer be held to a strict dress code that many thought compromised their in-flight anonymity.’ – and CA missed it!
Dan tdaxp added these pithy words on 28 Aug 06 at 12:16 amIO campaign against whom, where, how, and to what end? (Please don’t say you’ve fallen for this public-diplomacy bruhaha too…)
Ben Shobert added these pithy words on 28 Aug 06 at 9:27 pmI’m stumped by this Q&A session w/ Robert Spencer, in particular his treatment of Christian versus Muslim literal hermeneutics. Spencer’s analysis of the Old and New Testament (his treatment of the Gospels as one example) is simply wrong: outside of conservative Christian circles, even into what most would call moderate evangelical camps, the concepts of literalism and inerrancy are held to stridently. One does not have to go to an extreme by delving into the fundamentalist dispensational camps w/in Christianity to find literalism in every form and fashion strictly held to.
His analysis seems to touch on something important – the PC tendency to avoid calling militant Islam for what it is and for always pointing towards factors outside of Islamic political, religious and philosophical discourse, for the portion of its worldwide presence which is hateful and the literal underpinnings for global terror; however, were we to take much of the Christian and Judaic Penteteuch, we would be forced to bend our contemporary sense of morality through stories, rules and theologies that can be recognized as similarly hate-filled. I think Spencer’s analysis does have something to offer in that too-much of the analysis post 9/11 is coming from religious historians such as Karen Armstrong, someone whose infatuation and sincere love of religion at times overwhelms her sense of the darker sides to Christianity and Islam.
We seem to lack a coherent understanding of how to engage the Muslim world, which is sad for any number of reasons, not least of which is that our own story shows the extent to which we have grappled with separation of religion from the public sphere – a debate still very much alive, yet whose manifestations are less hateful than those taking place w/in Islam. My own sense (which is only the result of what I have been able to study on my own, and certainly not from the formal education many of the commentators and writers on this site have), is that what Muslim culture needs is very much something they can only do themselves, which may echo and loosely parallel the struggle, strife and questions asked and answered by the Enlightenment.
What we want for them is right, but it is not a gift we can give them, it is a change they must earn on their own. To the extent we can “assist” the transformation in the Muslim world I am unsure; my sense is that our policy of engagement has to meet people where they are. Spencer’s analysis of Islam reminds me of Sam Harris’ analysis of Christianity: both are (in my estimation) factually and rationally accurate, but pragmatically ineffective and probably destructive in the end.
fouro added these pithy words on 01 Sep 06 at 8:30 amExcellent post and thread of comments!
I like the sound of Spencer’s new film project, “What the West needs to know.” Okay, I really just like the name of his production company: Quixotic Media, LLC.
As for IO fogging, Spencer’s a piker. This PDF (1.4mb) from the Defense Science Board back in 2004 really pans the entire kabuki:
http://www.acq.osd.mil/dsb/reports/2004-09-Strategic_Communication.pdf
