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		<title>By: Aftermath of NK Missile Tests &#171;</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2006/07/04/dprk-july-4th-fireworks/comment-page-1/#comment-143574</link>
		<dc:creator>Aftermath of NK Missile Tests &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Oct 2006 05:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] UPDATE #1:Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â  Coming Anarchy has a post on the launch up and here is the Fox News report on the launch: North Korea may have tried to fire a long-range missile, but it failed in flight, two U.S. officials told FOX News on Tuesday. Two non-guided, medium-range Scud-style missiles were also fired, North American Aerospace Defense Command confirmed. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] <span class="caps">UPDATE </span>#1:&Atilde;ƒ&acirc;€š&Atilde;‚&Acirc;&nbsp; Coming Anarchy has a post on the launch up and here is the Fox News report on the launch: North Korea may have tried to fire a long-range missile, but it failed in flight, two <span class="caps">U.S. </span>officials told <span class="caps">FOX</span> News on Tuesday. Two non-guided, medium-range Scud-style missiles were also fired, North American Aerospace Defense Command confirmed. [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Left Flank &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Rockets Up In Smoke</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2006/07/04/dprk-july-4th-fireworks/comment-page-1/#comment-115283</link>
		<dc:creator>Left Flank &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Rockets Up In Smoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 05:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Coming Anarchy&#8217;s Curzon also speculates: &#8220;A third missile, the long range T2, apparently failed 90 seconds after launch. As the first rocket booster would apparently last for about 90 seconds, this likely means that the second stage either 1.) malfunctioned or 2.) was not fueled. The first two missiles may have fired simultaneously to see what Japan/ROK/US technology could detect.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Coming Anarchy&#8217;s Curzon also speculates: &#8220;A third missile, the long range <span class="caps">T2, </span>apparently failed 90 seconds after launch. As the first rocket booster would apparently last for about 90 seconds, this likely means that the second stage either 1.) malfunctioned or 2.) was not fueled. The first two missiles may have fired simultaneously to see what Japan/ROK/US technology could detect.&#8221; [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: ComingAnarchy.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; If war broke out&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2006/07/04/dprk-july-4th-fireworks/comment-page-1/#comment-113529</link>
		<dc:creator>ComingAnarchy.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; If war broke out&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2006 10:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Just don&#8217;t misunderstand the cause. Regardless of the sale figures of a few jingoistic comic books, the biggest cause of any change is a growing sense of anxiety about all of the crazy neighbors than a change in public opinion towards national pride. Or at least that&#8217;s how I see it. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Just don&#8217;t misunderstand the cause. Regardless of the sale figures of a few jingoistic comic books, the biggest cause of any change is a growing sense of anxiety about all of the crazy neighbors than a change in public opinion towards national pride. Or at least that&#8217;s how I see it. [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2006/07/04/dprk-july-4th-fireworks/comment-page-1/#comment-108472</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 11:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curzon, the reports I&#039;ve seen indicate that the missile crashed after just 45 seconds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curzon, the reports I&#8217;ve seen indicate that the missile crashed after just 45 seconds.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Sun Bin</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2006/07/04/dprk-july-4th-fireworks/comment-page-1/#comment-108427</link>
		<dc:creator>Sun Bin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 07:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt; Where did the North Korea missiles land?&lt;/strong&gt;

600km west of Hokkaido, where the missile reportedly fell. It is about 100km south of Vladivostok in international water, and probably falls in the EEZ of Russia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong> Where did the North Korea missiles land?</strong></p>

<p>600km west of Hokkaido, where the missile reportedly fell. It is about 100km south of Vladivostok in international water, and probably falls in the <span class="caps">EEZ </span>of Russia.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: 412 Precondition Failed</title>
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		<dc:creator>412 Precondition Failed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 05:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Marmot&#8217;s Hole &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Rockets Up In Smoke</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2006/07/04/dprk-july-4th-fireworks/comment-page-1/#comment-108367</link>
		<dc:creator>The Marmot&#8217;s Hole &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Rockets Up In Smoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 00:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Coming Anarchy&#8217;s Curzon also speculates: &#8220;A third missile, the long range T2, apparently failed 90 seconds after launch. As the first rocket booster would apparently last for about 90 seconds, this likely means that the second stage either 1.) malfunctioned or 2.) was not fueled. The first two missiles may have fired simultaneously to see what Japan/ROK/US technology could detect.&#8221; Share and Enjoy:These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Coming Anarchy&#8217;s Curzon also speculates: &#8220;A third missile, the long range <span class="caps">T2, </span>apparently failed 90 seconds after launch. As the first rocket booster would apparently last for about 90 seconds, this likely means that the second stage either 1.) malfunctioned or 2.) was not fueled. The first two missiles may have fired simultaneously to see what Japan/ROK/US technology could detect.&#8221; Share and Enjoy:These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: sun bin</title>
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		<dc:creator>sun bin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2006 22:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this one has scale
!http://www.geocities.co.jp/Berkeley-Labo/2061/Japan.jpg!

apologies to curzon for messing up the lay-out. is there a command to resize the map?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this one has scale<br />
<img src="http://www.geocities.co.jp/Berkeley-Labo/2061/Japan.jpg" alt="" /></p>

<p>apologies to curzon for messing up the lay-out. is there a command to resize the map?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: sun bin</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2006/07/04/dprk-july-4th-fireworks/comment-page-1/#comment-108339</link>
		<dc:creator>sun bin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2006 22:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, lets&#039; assume &#039;mainland&#039; is mis-translated from &#039;hon-shu, main island&#039;...
&quot;here it said 500-600km west of Hokaiddo&quot;:http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3722173a12,00.html
putting a ruler on the map of &quot;Japan Sea&quot; shows that 600km (or 400miles) from Japan is the eastern coast line of DPRK.
-- this confirms GI Korea&#039;s note above, 35 second from the base!

if that is the case, the japanese report is quite misleading......looks like the Koreans do have a very good point in the nomenclature dispute.
&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.graphicmaps.com/webimage/countrys/asia/eastsea.gif&quot; width=&quot;340&quot; /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, lets&#8217; assume &#8216;mainland&#8217; is mis-translated from &#8216;hon-shu, main island&#8217;&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3722173a12,00.html">here it said 500-600km west of Hokaiddo</a><br />
putting a ruler on the map of &#8220;Japan Sea&#8221; shows that 600km (or 400miles) from Japan is the eastern coast line of <span class="caps">DPRK.</span><br />
&#8211; this confirms GI Korea&#8217;s note above, 35 second from the base!</p>

<p>if that is the case, the japanese report is quite misleading&#8230;&#8230;looks like the Koreans do have a very good point in the nomenclature dispute.<br />
<img src="http://www.graphicmaps.com/webimage/countrys/asia/eastsea.gif" width="340" /></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: sun bin</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2006/07/04/dprk-july-4th-fireworks/comment-page-1/#comment-108338</link>
		<dc:creator>sun bin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2006 22:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what is &#039;mainland&#039;? 
is it the part assigned as &quot;east sea&quot; or &quot;japan sea&quot;? i mean EEZ-wise.
is there a map?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what is &#8216;mainland&#8217;? <br />
is it the part assigned as &#8220;east sea&#8221; or &#8220;japan sea&#8221;? i mean <span class="caps">EEZ</span>-wise.<br />
is there a map?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: GI Korea</title>
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		<dc:creator>GI Korea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2006 22:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The two short range missiles are now being reported as decoys for the Taepodong-2 that failed after 35 seconds of flight.  I&#039;m not surprised at all as I have been long skeptical of the NK missile threat.  I wonder if the ex-politicians advocating war with North Korea over this stupid missile still think we should bomb them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The two short range missiles are now being reported as decoys for the Taepodong-2 that failed after 35 seconds of flight.  I&#8217;m not surprised at all as I have been long skeptical of the NK missile threat.  I wonder if the ex-politicians advocating war with North Korea over this stupid missile still think we should bomb them?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Richardson</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2006/07/04/dprk-july-4th-fireworks/comment-page-1/#comment-108333</link>
		<dc:creator>Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2006 21:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The two smaller missiles that were reportedly launched likely are SRBM, like March launch;

http://www.korealiberator.org/2006/03/10/north-korean-srmb-launches-saber-rattling-or-not/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The two smaller missiles that were reportedly launched likely are <span class="caps">SRBM, </span>like March launch;</p>

<p><a href="http://www.korealiberator.org/2006/03/10/north-korean-srmb-launches-saber-rattling-or-not/">http://www.korealiberator.org/2006/03/10/north-korean-srmb-launches-saber-rattling-or-not/</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: bp32</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2006/07/04/dprk-july-4th-fireworks/comment-page-1/#comment-108332</link>
		<dc:creator>bp32</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2006 21:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, now CNN is reporting 3 missiles, one of which was a T-2 according to an official source--this is getting interesting...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, now <span class="caps">CNN </span>is reporting 3 missiles, one of which was a T-2 according to an official source&#8211;this is getting interesting&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: bp32</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2006/07/04/dprk-july-4th-fireworks/comment-page-1/#comment-108331</link>
		<dc:creator>bp32</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2006 21:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could it be they are simply trying to save face by this launch?  They get to launch a missile seemingly in defiance of US threats but the missile they launch isn&#039;t one that the US is likely to risk punishing it for?

The question still remains in my mind if they ever actually had a 2-3 stage missile to launch--peering inside that murky state is indeed difficult...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could it be they are simply trying to save face by this launch?  They get to launch a missile seemingly in defiance of US threats but the missile they launch isn&#8217;t one that the US is likely to risk punishing it for?</p>

<p>The question still remains in my mind if they ever actually had a 2-3 stage missile to launch&#8211;peering inside that murky state is indeed difficult&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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