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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2006/05/23/face-of-the-enemy/comment-page-1/#comment-94050</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 04:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was thinking more of Marxist, Maoist, and other less hierarchial terrorist organizations, like those found in Western Europe.

Lenin was famously hierarchially minded, but this is quite against what most communists were doing.

I think the cell structure spread out more with information technology, but this would make him even more of an innovator, not less of one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking more of Marxist, Maoist, and other less hierarchial terrorist organizations, like those found in Western Europe.</p>

<p>Lenin was famously hierarchially minded, but this is quite against what most communists were doing.</p>

<p>I think the cell structure spread out more with information technology, but this would make him even more of an innovator, not less of one.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Younghusband</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2006/05/23/face-of-the-enemy/comment-page-1/#comment-94048</link>
		<dc:creator>Younghusband</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 04:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Leninist/Communist movements in the mid-20th century used a hierarchical cell structure, whereas Al Qaeda broke that mold and used a distributed network cell structure (other than the leadership, which retained a hierarchy). This change was seen in certain business models developed during the 90&#039;s in response to the information revolution. Like Matt said, Nasar &quot;may not have originated these ideas, but he understood them before they were widespread&quot; and seems to be the one behind putting them to use in a terrorist organization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Leninist/Communist movements in the mid-20th century used a hierarchical cell structure, whereas Al Qaeda broke that mold and used a distributed network cell structure (other than the leadership, which retained a hierarchy). This change was seen in certain business models developed during the 90&#8217;s in response to the information revolution. Like Matt said, Nasar &#8220;may not have originated these ideas, but he understood them before they were widespread&#8221; and seems to be the one behind putting them to use in a terrorist organization.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2006/05/23/face-of-the-enemy/comment-page-1/#comment-94046</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 04:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt/Tagore: in fact, jihadi terrorist cells weren&#039;t organized like that in Al Qaeda before this guy, at least according to what I read.  Apparently they were very hierarchial, organized after a Muslim Brotherhood-type organization.  And what he did was to bring in standard terrorist organizational tactics (mainly developed to 20th/21st century standards by the communists) into the Islamic movement.

Very, very intelligent.

I wonder how much of it is, to him, a game in which he is just playing on the right side?  Sounds more like a strategist, right-hand man for a figurehead than a typical jihadi fighter with nothing to lose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt/Tagore: in fact, jihadi terrorist cells weren&#8217;t organized like that in Al Qaeda before this guy, at least according to what I read.  Apparently they were very hierarchial, organized after a Muslim Brotherhood-type organization.  And what he did was to bring in standard terrorist organizational tactics (mainly developed to 20th/21st century standards by the communists) into the Islamic movement.</p>

<p>Very, very intelligent.</p>

<p>I wonder how much of it is, to him, a game in which he is just playing on the right side?  Sounds more like a strategist, right-hand man for a figurehead than a typical jihadi fighter with nothing to lose.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2006/05/23/face-of-the-enemy/comment-page-1/#comment-94033</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 03:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@tagore

You wrote: &quot;Is there anyone on the planet who did not already know ... Useless&quot;Ã‚Â¦&quot;

The thing I learned from reading about Mustafa was that he was describing this very early on. He may not have  orginated these ideas, but he understood them before  they were wide spread. Also  I was impressed that he was only caught recently. Obviously a  smart man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@tagore</p>

<p>You wrote: &#8220;Is there anyone on the planet who did not already know &#8230; Useless&#8221;&Atilde;‚&Acirc;&brvbar;&#8221;</p>

<p>The thing I learned from reading about Mustafa was that he was describing this very early on. He may not have  orginated these ideas, but he understood them before  they were wide spread. Also  I was impressed that he was only caught recently. Obviously a  smart man.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: phil jones</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2006/05/23/face-of-the-enemy/comment-page-1/#comment-93854</link>
		<dc:creator>phil jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 14:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking at his resume, what I&#039;d really like to know is how he got radicalized, and against who.

He&#039;s Syrian. The first bit of fighting he does (in his early 20s in the early 80s) is with the Muslim Brotherhood. But where? Against who? In Syria? Egypt? Is there a Lebanon connection if this is the early 80s?

Then he goes to Spain in 85.

But in 87 he&#039;s in Afghanistan, presumably fighting the Russians.

In 1992 he&#039;s back in Europe organizing cells. Against Europeans? Why? Was that his intention all along? Since 85? Or is this an idea he got in Afghanistan? From OBL? Or in response to the western troops in Saudi for the first gulf war?

Instead of racial profiling, surely &quot;motivational&quot; profiling would be more interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking at his resume, what I&#8217;d really like to know is how he got radicalized, and against who.</p>

<p>He&#8217;s Syrian. The first bit of fighting he does (in his early 20s in the early 80s) is with the Muslim Brotherhood. But where? Against who? In Syria? Egypt? Is there a Lebanon connection if this is the early 80s?</p>

<p>Then he goes to Spain in 85.</p>

<p>But in 87 he&#8217;s in Afghanistan, presumably fighting the Russians.</p>

<p>In 1992 he&#8217;s back in Europe organizing cells. Against Europeans? Why? Was that his intention all along? Since 85? Or is this an idea he got in Afghanistan? From <span class="caps">OBL</span>? Or in response to the western troops in Saudi for the first gulf war?</p>

<p>Instead of racial profiling, surely &#8220;motivational&#8221; profiling would be more interesting.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 09:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Three cheers to Tagore for his comment.  I look very Asian, to the point that in Turkey, people wouldn&#039;t speak English to me for several minutes.  Turks came up to me on the street and asked me for directions in Turkish.  I&#039;m a Christian and a hundreth-generation American, but if you put me through the racial profiling loop, I&#039;m screwed.  That&#039;s just a bunch of bunk.

Moreover, Iranians, and Persian peoples, are often light-haired.  Well, maybe not as often as the Irish, but more often than you&#039;d think.  Probably about 25% of the population of Tajikistan would never be picked out as non-Aryan by the profilers.  Same goes for Iranians, Uzbeks, and Afghans.  Because they&#039;re Aryans is why, actually, but never mind the facts.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:HbQwuP_V1OkFMM:www.internews.org/images/news/tajikistan/intl_womens_day_girl.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tajik Girl&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:IRikiX4iEx_rrM:www.connect-tajikistan.org/en/images/khorog_gysd1.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Another Tajik Girl&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:aZDeNVKmzK4qrM:www.osce.org/photo_gal/web_2111_226034_1071837819.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;And... Another Tajik Girl&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:6cM4riNcNsLH8M:www.acclaimimages.net/_gallery/_SM/0129-0511-1723-1431_SM.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tajik Boy&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://millais.solent.ac.uk/IranianJourney/Girl_with_roses.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Iranian Girl &lt;/a&gt;

Also... plastic surgery.  Hair dye.  Try it sometime: that stuff does actually work.  Just look at Pam Anderson.

Anyone could be a terrorist.  But most people aren&#039;t.

But what I really wanted to say was that that guy is brilliant.  I mean in an intellectual way, obviously.  Wasn&#039;t he the one who set up much of Al Qaeda&#039;s cell system, moving from the traditional hierarchial system to one that resembled a more network system?

He also developed a number of intersting liberation-theology type theories based on the Quran and his own philosophical arguments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three cheers to Tagore for his comment.  I look very Asian, to the point that in Turkey, people wouldn&#8217;t speak English to me for several minutes.  Turks came up to me on the street and asked me for directions in Turkish.  I&#8217;m a Christian and a hundreth-generation American, but if you put me through the racial profiling loop, I&#8217;m screwed.  That&#8217;s just a bunch of bunk.</p>

<p>Moreover, Iranians, and Persian peoples, are often light-haired.  Well, maybe not as often as the Irish, but more often than you&#8217;d think.  Probably about 25% of the population of Tajikistan would never be picked out as non-Aryan by the profilers.  Same goes for Iranians, Uzbeks, and Afghans.  Because they&#8217;re Aryans is why, actually, but never mind the facts.</p>

<p><a href="http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:HbQwuP_V1OkFMM:www.internews.org/images/news/tajikistan/intl_womens_day_girl.jpg">Tajik Girl</a><br />
<a href="http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:IRikiX4iEx_rrM:www.connect-tajikistan.org/en/images/khorog_gysd1.jpg">Another Tajik Girl</a><br />
<a href="http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:aZDeNVKmzK4qrM:www.osce.org/photo_gal/web_2111_226034_1071837819.jpg">And&#8230; Another Tajik Girl</a><br />
<a href="http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:6cM4riNcNsLH8M:www.acclaimimages.net/_gallery/_SM/0129-0511-1723-1431_SM.jpg">Tajik Boy</a><br />
<a href="http://millais.solent.ac.uk/IranianJourney/Girl_with_roses.jpg">Iranian Girl </a></p>

<p>Also&#8230; plastic surgery.  Hair dye.  Try it sometime: that stuff does actually work.  Just look at Pam Anderson.</p>

<p>Anyone could be a terrorist.  But most people aren&#8217;t.</p>

<p>But what I really wanted to say was that that guy is brilliant.  I mean in an intellectual way, obviously.  Wasn&#8217;t he the one who set up much of Al Qaeda&#8217;s cell system, moving from the traditional hierarchial system to one that resembled a more network system?</p>

<p>He also developed a number of intersting liberation-theology type theories based on the Quran and his own philosophical arguments.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Younghusband</title>
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		<dc:creator>Younghusband</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 06:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought his ability to travel the breadth of the world on his mission was the amazing part. I think his actual face might have helped him in his movement, but this guy has a pretty impressive set of stamps in his passport.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought his ability to travel the breadth of the world on his mission was the amazing part. I think his actual face might have helped him in his movement, but this guy has a pretty impressive set of stamps in his passport.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Tagore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tagore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 05:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curzon, 

I think since Timothy McVeigh and Johnny Walker Lind, we have all known that terrorists could be any skin color.  In fact, the most wanted terror organization in the US before 2001 was/is composed of mainly European-American males: the Earth Liberation Front.  

However, none of these facts have had any perceptible impact on reducing racial profiling and discrimination against minority populations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curzon, </p>

<p>I think since Timothy McVeigh and Johnny Walker Lind, we have all known that terrorists could be any skin color.  In fact, the most wanted terror organization in the US before 2001 was/is composed of mainly European-American males: the Earth Liberation Front.  </p>

<p>However, none of these facts have had any perceptible impact on reducing racial profiling and discrimination against minority populations.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2006 21:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It did state the obvious, didnt it? At any rate, it is good that we have something to go on about the type of people out there looking to wage war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It did state the obvious, didnt it? At any rate, it is good that we have something to go on about the type of people out there looking to wage war.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Curzon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curzon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2006 21:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it a good thing or a bad thing that the race/ethnicity of the enemy is not uniform?  

On the one hand, the understanding that Al Qaeda operatives could be white, black, red, yellow or brown (to paraphrase Jesse  Jackson) stops racial profiling, makes it easier for the percieved stereotypical &quot;terrorists&quot; i.e. Arabs to live in America and the West, and all the rest.  

However, it also ups the fear factor -- _anyone_ could be Al Qaeda, _anyone_ could be a terrorist...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it a good thing or a bad thing that the race/ethnicity of the enemy is not uniform?  </p>

<p>On the one hand, the understanding that Al Qaeda operatives could be white, black, red, yellow or brown (to paraphrase Jesse  Jackson) stops racial profiling, makes it easier for the percieved stereotypical &#8220;terrorists&#8221; i.e. Arabs to live in America and the West, and all the rest.  </p>

<p>However, it also ups the fear factor &#8212; <em>anyone</em> could be Al Qaeda, <em>anyone</em> could be a terrorist&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Tagore</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2006/05/23/face-of-the-enemy/comment-page-1/#comment-93206</link>
		<dc:creator>Tagore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2006 20:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the words of Che, Nasar is a &quot;Jesuit of War,&quot; but his strategies are hardly suprising or original.  

Is there anyone on the planet who did not already know that jihadi terrorist organizations are organized into cells with minimal inter-communication?  Useless...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the words of Che, Nasar is a &#8220;Jesuit of War,&#8221; but his strategies are hardly suprising or original.  </p>

<p>Is there anyone on the planet who did not already know that jihadi terrorist organizations are organized into cells with minimal inter-communication?  Useless&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: purpleslog</title>
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		<dc:creator>purpleslog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2006 19:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any luck finding a link to &quot;The Call for a Global Islamic Resistance&quot;? I have not been able to find it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any luck finding a link to &#8220;The Call for a Global Islamic Resistance&#8221;? I have not been able to find it.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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