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	<description>Speak Victorian, Think Pagan</description>
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		<title>By: ComingAnarchy.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Connectivity and Chaos in Brazil</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2006/05/19/forget-the-gap-try-the-middle-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-93841</link>
		<dc:creator>ComingAnarchy.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Connectivity and Chaos in Brazil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 13:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Yet another type of illegal flow through an ungoverned space. Brazil is a case in point in how technology is empowering the &#8220;bad guys.&#8221; In a poorly governed correctional system where gangs control extraordinary resources and influence, increased technology at the fingertips of any potential terrorist or criminal will put the power in their hands. Governance will become much more difficult over the years as these trends continue.      What say you? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Yet another type of illegal flow through an ungoverned space. Brazil is a case in point in how technology is empowering the &#8220;bad guys.&#8221; In a poorly governed correctional system where gangs control extraordinary resources and influence, increased technology at the fingertips of any potential terrorist or criminal will put the power in their hands. Governance will become much more difficult over the years as these trends continue.      What say you? [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: TM Lutas</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2006/05/19/forget-the-gap-try-the-middle-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-91972</link>
		<dc:creator>TM Lutas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2006 11:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bottom line is that feudalism failed, was pushed out by better systems. There&#039;s nothing presented here that demonstrates that it&#039;s gotten any better this time around. At most, what&#039;s being illustrated here is a &quot;least worst&quot; alternative coming out of the Gap instead of a real &quot;counter Core&quot; such as those dreaming of a worldwide Caliphate present. 

To answer the closing question on network disruption methods, it&#039;s &quot;yes&quot;. The cure for these networks is constant pressure that induces error, leads to network disruption and a smaller/weaker reestablished network after each successful disruption. Whether you concentrate on one aspect or another or do a full court press at all points, the worse the total pressure, the more likely you will induce the dons to mess up and get captured, leading to less experienced figures moving up the ranks, weakening and eventually destroying the network. 

As for Dr. Barnett&#039;s solutions, I think the article mischaracterizes them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bottom line is that feudalism failed, was pushed out by better systems. There&#8217;s nothing presented here that demonstrates that it&#8217;s gotten any better this time around. At most, what&#8217;s being illustrated here is a &#8220;least worst&#8221; alternative coming out of the Gap instead of a real &#8220;counter Core&#8221; such as those dreaming of a worldwide Caliphate present. </p>

<p>To answer the closing question on network disruption methods, it&#8217;s &#8220;yes&#8221;. The cure for these networks is constant pressure that induces error, leads to network disruption and a smaller/weaker reestablished network after each successful disruption. Whether you concentrate on one aspect or another or do a full court press at all points, the worse the total pressure, the more likely you will induce the dons to mess up and get captured, leading to less experienced figures moving up the ranks, weakening and eventually destroying the network. </p>

<p>As for Dr. Barnett&#8217;s solutions, I think the article mischaracterizes them.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: ComingAnarchy.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Neo-Medievalism II</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2006/05/19/forget-the-gap-try-the-middle-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-91415</link>
		<dc:creator>ComingAnarchy.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Neo-Medievalism II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 May 2006 22:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In the first post, Forget the Gap, try the Middle Ages, I discussed ungoverned space, and how it relates to gangs, international criminal networks, terrorists and Feudalism. While doing various research for follow up posts, I began thinking about PNM Theory. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In the first post, Forget the Gap, try the Middle Ages, I discussed ungoverned space, and how it relates to gangs, international criminal networks, terrorists and Feudalism. While doing various research for follow up posts, I began thinking about <span class="caps">PNM</span> Theory. [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: mark safranski</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2006/05/19/forget-the-gap-try-the-middle-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-91327</link>
		<dc:creator>mark safranski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 May 2006 18:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Anyone attempting a global theory like this needs to be familiar enough with the relevant fields.&quot;

And Barnett is. It&#039;s not like he isn&#039;t capable of doing quantitative analysis and secondly, the underlying premise of PNM revolves around economics, not military power projection. His goal was to put military strategy in the context of everything else, not to write a treatise primarily on the nuances of economic theory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Anyone attempting a global theory like this needs to be familiar enough with the relevant fields.&#8221;</p>

<p>And Barnett is. It&#8217;s not like he isn&#8217;t capable of doing quantitative analysis and secondly, the underlying premise of <span class="caps">PNM </span>revolves around economics, not military power projection. His goal was to put military strategy in the context of everything else, not to write a treatise primarily on the nuances of economic theory.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Kirk H. Sowell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirk H. Sowell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 May 2006 17:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...Dr. Barnett is an expert on military and geopolitical strategy and not an economist or a financial analyst...&quot;

Barnett may not be a finance expert, but &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thomaspmbarnett.com/published/SystemPerturbation.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;he has worked with Canter-Fitzgerald&lt;/a&gt;, and his research with them dealt with the precise issue here; rule-sets. Anyone attempting a global theory like this needs to be familiar enough with the relevant fields.

Feudalism has been defined as the power of the state in private hands, and so by that definition Chirol&#039;s paradigm here would definitely apply in some areas. Somalia is another one which is heating up now; right now it is the warlords, which the U.S. is now apparently helping, fighting the Islamists, a la Afghanistan.

I think that Chirol&#039;s main point deals with an area where the 9/11 attacks brought about a paradigm shift in U.S. foreign policy. Prior to 2001, I was among the many who were skeptical of the whole nation-building idea, but as long as it is undertaken with a proper sense of realism about how difficult it is, I think that is necessary now precisely for the reason that Chirol gives - our enemies need space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;Dr. Barnett is an expert on military and geopolitical strategy and not an economist or a financial analyst&#8230;&#8221;</p>

<p>Barnett may not be a finance expert, but <a href="http://www.thomaspmbarnett.com/published/SystemPerturbation.htm">he has worked with Canter-Fitzgerald</a>, and his research with them dealt with the precise issue here; rule-sets. Anyone attempting a global theory like this needs to be familiar enough with the relevant fields.</p>

<p>Feudalism has been defined as the power of the state in private hands, and so by that definition Chirol&#8217;s paradigm here would definitely apply in some areas. Somalia is another one which is heating up now; right now it is the warlords, which the <span class="caps">U.S. </span>is now apparently helping, fighting the Islamists, a la Afghanistan.</p>

<p>I think that Chirol&#8217;s main point deals with an area where the 9/11 attacks brought about a paradigm shift in <span class="caps">U.S. </span>foreign policy. Prior to 2001, I was among the many who were skeptical of the whole nation-building idea, but as long as it is undertaken with a proper sense of realism about how difficult it is, I think that is necessary now precisely for the reason that Chirol gives &#8211; our enemies need space.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Kenneth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenneth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 May 2006 02:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some amalgamation of feudalism and capitalism does appear to be the most organic, spontaneous social structure.  Kaplan is looking more prescient by the day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some amalgamation of feudalism and capitalism does appear to be the most organic, spontaneous social structure.  Kaplan is looking more prescient by the day.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: mark safranski</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2006/05/19/forget-the-gap-try-the-middle-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-90690</link>
		<dc:creator>mark safranski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 May 2006 02:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; Ah, my young Jedi...&quot;

Ahem.

Great post Chirol ! Very well done.

A few comments:

The Middle Ages were also characterized by the twin ideals of the Church and the Holy Roman Empire, two &quot; universal&quot; myths to tie Christendom together. 

A critical node to disrupt in Black globalization networks are the financial hubs that willingly launder blackmarket revenues into &quot; white&quot; profits. A bagful of diamonds at some point has to become greenbacks.

Tom is getting a rap lately for being an all-government, centralizing, advocate of a security GOSPLAN for the Core. This is a cartoon. Perhaps the emphasis on market and private action in PNM/BFA should have been made more explicit but let&#039;s face it, Dr. Barnett is an expert on military and geopolitical strategy and not an economist or a financial analyst and didn&#039;t delve into those details ( for example the behavior of emerging markets). That does not mean however that he is in favor of &quot;hierarchy&quot; over &quot;networks&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; Ah, my young Jedi&#8230;&#8221;</p>

<p>Ahem.</p>

<p>Great post Chirol ! Very well done.</p>

<p>A few comments:</p>

<p>The Middle Ages were also characterized by the twin ideals of the Church and the Holy Roman Empire, two &#8221; universal&#8221; myths to tie Christendom together. </p>

<p>A critical node to disrupt in Black globalization networks are the financial hubs that willingly launder blackmarket revenues into &#8221; white&#8221; profits. A bagful of diamonds at some point has to become greenbacks.</p>

<p>Tom is getting a rap lately for being an all-government, centralizing, advocate of a security <span class="caps">GOSPLAN </span>for the Core. This is a cartoon. Perhaps the emphasis on market and private action in <span class="caps">PNM</span>/BFA should have been made more explicit but let&#8217;s face it, Dr. Barnett is an expert on military and geopolitical strategy and not an economist or a financial analyst and didn&#8217;t delve into those details ( for example the behavior of emerging markets). That does not mean however that he is in favor of &#8220;hierarchy&#8221; over &#8220;networks&#8221;.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 May 2006 16:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>allow me to make a frivolous comment, please, to an important post:

remember when Princess Leia told Grand Moff Tarkin that the more he tightened his grip, the more systems would slip through his fingers?

that was awesome!

;-)

now, please go back to being serious...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>allow me to make a frivolous comment, please, to an important post:</p>

<p>remember when Princess Leia told Grand Moff Tarkin that the more he tightened his grip, the more systems would slip through his fingers?</p>

<p>that was awesome!</p>

<p>;-)</p>

<p>now, please go back to being serious&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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