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Too bad so many have turned out to be fair-weather friends, eh?

Rommel added these pithy words on 17 May 06 at 3:44 am

Indeed.

Chirol added these pithy words on 17 May 06 at 8:38 am

Doesn´t have Finnish flag. Interesting details for the reasons in the history for that…

mkl added these pithy words on 17 May 06 at 5:24 pm

What’s the flag between Italy and Germany? A quarter of Quebec??

Alfred Russel Wallace added these pithy words on 17 May 06 at 5:36 pm

The Marshall Plan entry in Wikipedia contains the following:

The idea of a reconstruction plan was [.] an outgrowth of the ideological shift that had occurred in the United States in the Great Depression. The economic calamity of the 1930s had convinced many that the unfettered free market could not guarantee economic well-being. Many who had worked on designing the New Deal programs to revive the American economy now sought to apply these lessons to Europe. At the same time the Great Depression had shown the dangers of tariffs and protectionism, creating a strong belief in the need for free trade and European economic integration.

Changed days; dangerous tariffs and protectionism are all the rage again. It’s a pity that transient national ideology is allowed to be so influential – the IMF was supposed to stop this by being the umpire of the post WW2 global economy.

IJ added these pithy words on 17 May 06 at 7:37 pm

Mr. Wallace,

I wondered about that as well. By poking about in Wikipedia I think it is the flag of the Free State of Trieste http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Territory_of_Trieste.

Anyone else able to confirm or deny this?

NC

NeonCat added these pithy words on 18 May 06 at 5:34 am

I guess I should have scrolled down the page, as it shows the picture with the flag in question id’d as Trieste, noting the colors are wrong.

NeonCat added these pithy words on 18 May 06 at 5:35 am

I used to think George Orwell was amazingly creative and prescient, but what I’ve learned is that he was just observant. Creeps me out.

Elizabeth added these pithy words on 18 May 06 at 6:33 am

We seem to have a version of the Marshall Plan nowadays that is directed by the East. Asia wants to build up its economy, and is lending hugely to the West in order to do it.

In the absence of an IMF umpire, this leaves the G8.

IJ added these pithy words on 18 May 06 at 10:50 am

But there are big differences in the G8 economic grouping – and China isn’t even a member. _Chilly war_ raises tensions ahead of St Petersburg summit

IJ added these pithy words on 18 May 06 at 11:27 am

@ Rommel

Are you saying that supporting the US in Afghanistan and the war on terrorism is easy and convenient?
(Wpedia: A friend who supports others only when it is easy and convenient to do so is called a “fair-weather friend”.)
Tell that to the 2000 German soldiers in Afghanistan or the German intelligence agents who support the US efforts in many ways, like those who gave you one of the Iraqi defense plans.

Jorg added these pithy words on 18 May 06 at 1:29 pm

Let me plug Patrick Jackson’s forthcoming book Civilizing the Enemy : German Reconstruction and the Invention of the West. It explains, among other things, the iconography of such promotional posters.

Dan Nexon added these pithy words on 18 May 06 at 6:41 pm

Another big problem with the G8. EU members the UK, Italy, Germany and France are members but don’t have to take a common position. The EU has similar disconnectedness at the United Nations and the IMF.

IJ added these pithy words on 18 May 06 at 7:48 pm

A note- India is proposing ” Himlayan Marshall Plan” for Nepal if it surrenders to its idea to be under its ” Security Umbrella.” Not that it has not created enough havoc in Nepal’s internal politics already, it wants to play big bad step- brother. The “Brown Shahibs” have not lost their colonial attitude, yet.

Shyam Khatri added these pithy words on 19 May 06 at 8:02 am

Another big problem with the G8. EU members the UK, Italy, Germany and France are members but don’t have to take a common position. The EU has similar disconnectedness at the United Nations and the IMF.

Where the European Union is concerned, national interest still trumps a unified front (see the wrangling over farming subsidies). Considering it grew out of a shared market in coal and steel, it’s unrealistic to expect it to develop a unified political/military position. Which is why individual countries, and not the organisation itself, will be players on the global stage in future.

moorethanthis added these pithy words on 19 May 06 at 12:48 pm

Why do members of the European Union refuse to take a common position on the global stage? No doubt the fragmented approach goes back to fundamentals.

The EU alliance, like NATO, claims to operate within the framework of the United Nations. Last month, because of serious doubts, the IMF requested all its members to restate their commitment to the Fund. Perhaps all members of the EU and NATO could restate their commitment to the UN.

IJ added these pithy words on 19 May 06 at 4:06 pm
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