Bilingual education spreads Chinese to ethnic minorities
03/29/2006
Kazuto Tsukamoto, The Asahi ShinbunBAXKERAM KANT, China—At an elementary school on the outskirts of an oasis town along the Silk Road, Chinese authorities are carrying out a unique cultural experiment. In one of the classrooms of this white, one-story school house, 47 students in the fourth grade are reading their “national language” textbook in a loud voice. The language is Chinese. However, all of the children are members of the Uyghur ethnic minority. At home, they speak the Uyghur language. Located in the town of Baxkeram Kant in the western part of the Xinjiang Uyghur autonomous region, the school is attracting notice as a pioneering bilingual school, in which children of a minority people learn subjects not in their own language but in Chinese.
The last thing anyone in Xin’jiang needs is a “cultural experiment” courtesy of the Chinese authorities. And while the leftist Asahi tries to bill this as progressive “bilingual education,” many would call it nothing short of cultural imperialism or Hanification. But that’s not the main point of this post.
All of the 532 students are Uyghur, an Islamic people whose ancestors are said to have come from Turkey.
Not quite. Yes, Uyghurs are Turkic. But the Turkic peoples came from Central Asia, probably near the Altaic Moutains stretching between eastern Kazakhstan and Mongolia. What we now call Turkey is geographicalyl referred to as Anatolia or Asia Minor and was once the sparring grounds between Greeks and Persians. Turks have been in Turkey barely a millenia, and the Turks in western China have been there markably longer than the Turks in Anatolia.
SIDENOTE: A friend notes that if the Uyghurs, who’ve been in western China for at least 2,000 years, really did come from Turkey, they would be Greek.

Comments to this entry
Nathan Hamm
April 5, 2006
7:43 am
Actually this kind of reminds me of how Turks will, at times call other Turkic languages things like "Uyghur Turkish" or "Kyrgyz Turkish" as if they all trace back to the "true" form of the language as spoken in Turkey.
Curzon
April 5, 2006
8:04 am
Something tells me that this theory would be way, way over their heads.
"Uyghur Turkish" etc is weird, but "Uyghur Turkic" is kosher, no? Turks (from Turkey!) I've spoken to were all well familiar that their ancestors had migrated to the bridge between Europ and Asia from the steppe.
R. Elgin
April 5, 2006
8:52 am
snow
April 5, 2006
10:17 am
Matt
April 5, 2006
11:21 am
Dan tdaxp
April 5, 2006
1:34 pm
I've heard the same. King of similar to the way it is somewhat easy to learn Spanish for English speakers because English absorbed so much Latin vocab (even though English does not come from Latin).
Nathan Hamm
April 5, 2006
5:08 pm
Snow, Finnish is part of the Uralic family, which is now considered to be distinct from the Altaic family. I'm not sure, but I think that it is believed that the similarities between these language families are due to convergence.
Curzon, "Uyghur Turkic" more or less makes sense, but I think it does suggest Uyghur is a dialect of a language called "Turkic." What the Turks in Turkey (and I'm mostly talking about Turkologists and certain folks in government) were trying to do was suggest that there really is only one Turkic language called Turkish and that everyone merely spoke dialects. There is a great deal of mutual intelligibility, but the languages certainly are distinct. Uyghur and Uzbek are essentially identical, but I was listening to Yakut last night and couldn't make out anything but an occasional word.
Jing
April 5, 2006
11:00 pm
Nathan Hamm
April 6, 2006
12:55 am
Mutantfrog
April 7, 2006
7:07 am
ckrisz
April 7, 2006
8:57 am
sun bin
April 7, 2006
9:46 am
1. Uyghur and present day Turkish are distant cousins, and not a branch from them
2. Uyghur came to Xinjiang only 1200 years ago, not 2000 years ago
My questions:
who are the people who lived in present day Xinjiang and Kazakhstan during West Han Dynasty (i.e. Da-wan) who were Han's vassal and allies against the Huns?
Did they vanished like the ancient Indians (of 2500BC)?
Nathan Hamm
April 7, 2006
8:13 pm
During at least part of the West Han Dynasty, the Hsiung-nu controlled the Tarim Basin. But, the people who lived there were, I'm pretty sure, Tibetan and/or Iranian. They didn't exactly vanish--their fate is known. As steppe nomads moved in, they were forced out or assimilated into the new populations.
davesgonechina
April 7, 2006
11:12 pm
That's what I understand as well.
I blogged on this Mandarin lesson stuff and tried to pull together how this plays out in the wider context of education in Xinjiang, since I taught there:
http://silkworms.chinesetriad.org/?p=265
Basically I think the Chinese are somewhat well intentioned; bigwigs like Wang Lequan no doubt hope assimilation will reduce separatist dreams. But ckrisz has a point, there are real benefits that come with speaking the national language, not to mention poverty is a real problem.
Before the Uyghurs, you have the Yuezhi, the Xiongnu (or Hsiung-nu as Nathan said), the Wusun (who I haven't figured out yet), the Kushans, the Ruanruan, the Hepthalites, the Sogdians, the Sui and the Kok-Turks, almost all nomadic. Modern day Uyghurs are most likely the descendents of the mishmash that then intermarried with the historical Uyghurs, plus everybody else who has been there since (which during the Silk Road period was pretty much all of their neighbors, near and far). It's hard to tell which groups were obliterated and which were assimilated. These are groups that exist quite often in name only from surviving texts (written by others, like the Chinese), not through living history such as people or cultural relics. Nomads - can't be bothered to pick up a bloody pen.
My now-too-long-neglected Xinjiang Historical Atlas page roughly shows the areas occupied by each group up to 610 CE (just before the Uyghurs in 744):
http://silkworms.chinesetriad.org/?page_id=242
The Uyghur Kingdom from 744-840 had its capital on the Orkhon river, near the ruins of Karakorum, the later Mongol capital, in Mongolia - as Mutantfrog indicated.
davesgonechina
April 7, 2006
11:19 pm
Nathan
April 8, 2006
3:45 am
Which is all the more reason for me to get around to posting the paper I wrote on political legitimacy on the Mongol steppe because it deals in part with why so many empires based in Mongolia put their capitals in the Orkhon river valley.
davesgonechina
April 8, 2006
7:23 pm
http://whc.unesco.org/pg.cfm?cid=31&id_site=1081
bilinmeyen
April 29, 2006
11:36 pm
"There is a great deal of mutual intelligibility, but the languages certainly are distinct."
Only mutual intelligibility?.. Sure, there's more! Call it "Turkish" or "Turkic" or something else, but the language is the same!
I want to add one thing... Yes, until today, the history was showing that Turkish people came to Anatolia 1,000 years ago! But, a recently it is approved that Hittites are Turks also. And, if it's true(there was proofs, as they said), Turks' existence in Anatolia began about 5,000 years ago!
Of course, the Turks came from Central Asia, and caused big results, it's well-known! But, Turks' history in Anatolia is much longer than we know!..
bilinmeyen
April 29, 2006
11:43 pm
Elizabeth
April 30, 2006
7:56 am
I've read about this Finno-Uralic-cum-Altaic language family as well, but only in the context of theories trying desperately to link all languages to one single proto-language. I tend, therefore, to be slightly suspicious of this... if you do the one-through-ten test on these groups, you will find it difficult to compare them in the same way that even languages as diverse as Soghdian, Russian, and Romanian can be compared to English.
bilinmeyen
May 3, 2006
1:49 am
As a native Turkish speaker: When you read Arabic or Persian you can understand only one or two words, but nothing else(though, there are many Arabic/Persian words in Turkish). But when you read Uighur/Uzbek you understand what does it mean, except from 3-4 words in a sentence. Even there are Uzbek message boards that have lots of Turkish members!
In one language, you notice similarities, in the other the differences!
And the little differences are normal, try to catch a Turkish person living in Germany! Though they watch Turkish TV programmes everyday and Turkish immigration to Germany began only a half century ago, it's sometimes very hard to understand what they say!
Not to mention, historically the founders of the Ottoman Empire (roots of today's Turks in Anatolia) are coming from Middle Asia and Kayi tribe and so historically the languages are coming from one root, too!