Comments on: Warrior Gods http://cominganarchy.com/2006/02/28/warrior-gods/ Speak Victorian, Think Pagan Sun, 21 Mar 2010 04:09:04 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: mark safranski http://cominganarchy.com/2006/02/28/warrior-gods/comment-page-1/#comment-72133 mark safranski Fri, 03 Mar 2006 04:43:27 +0000 http://www.cominganarchy.com/?p=1669#comment-72133 The Knights of Malta and the order of St John are one and he same. The third order is the Teutonic Knights who crusaded against pagan Slavs. While quasi-monastic these were knights while the Japanese temples had fanatically disciplined monks whose military independence was suppressed only with the greatest difficulty. The Knights of Malta still exist BTW as a semi-sovereign entity in the Vatican city, recognized by the UN as an observer. The Knights of Malta and the order of St John are one and he same. The third order is the Teutonic Knights who crusaded against pagan Slavs. While quasi-monastic these were knights while the Japanese temples had fanatically disciplined monks whose military independence was suppressed only with the greatest difficulty.

The Knights of Malta still exist BTW as a semi-sovereign entity in the Vatican city, recognized by the UN as an observer.

]]> By: lirelou http://cominganarchy.com/2006/02/28/warrior-gods/comment-page-1/#comment-72124 lirelou Fri, 03 Mar 2006 00:14:04 +0000 http://www.cominganarchy.com/?p=1669#comment-72124 Christian monks may not have been transient warriors, but of course there were Christian warrior monks. As I recall there were three military orders: The Knights Templar, the Knights Hospitalers of Saint John (?), and the Knights of Malta. Not sure if the spin-off of the Templars, the Caballeros de Santiago, were monks or not. Korea also had a tradition of warrior monks, some of whom fought the Japanese in the 1592-97 Invasions. Christian monks may not have been transient warriors, but of course there were Christian warrior monks. As I recall there were three military orders: The Knights Templar, the Knights Hospitalers of Saint John (?), and the Knights of Malta. Not sure if the spin-off of the Templars, the Caballeros de Santiago, were monks or not. Korea also had a tradition of warrior monks, some of whom fought the Japanese in the 1592-97 Invasions.

]]> By: Dan http://cominganarchy.com/2006/02/28/warrior-gods/comment-page-1/#comment-72016 Dan Wed, 01 Mar 2006 14:34:06 +0000 http://www.cominganarchy.com/?p=1669#comment-72016 Mark, To what extent did the Crusades, and later post-Monarchy Montenegro, exhibit Christian warrior monks? I've heard "quite a lot" argued, but I'd like to know your view. Mark,

To what extent did the Crusades, and later post-Monarchy Montenegro, exhibit Christian warrior monks? I’ve heard “quite a lot” argued, but I’d like to know your view.

]]> By: mark safranski http://cominganarchy.com/2006/02/28/warrior-gods/comment-page-1/#comment-71969 mark safranski Wed, 01 Mar 2006 04:39:36 +0000 http://www.cominganarchy.com/?p=1669#comment-71969 Excellent post YH. Buddhism was also far more receptive than Christianity toward transiency of monks adopting the way for a time and then returning to the the world. Some of the ferocious warrior-monks of feudal Japan who fought Samurai actually were themselves Samurai sometimes. Excellent post YH.

Buddhism was also far more receptive than Christianity toward transiency of monks adopting the way for a time and then returning to the the world. Some of the ferocious warrior-monks of feudal Japan who fought Samurai actually were themselves Samurai sometimes.

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