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December 6th, 2005

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Geomapping Problems, Part 2: Google Earth

I’ve got beef with Nasa World Wind, but I’m even more frustrated by Google Earth. Why? It’s bent to inane political correctness.

First: Afghanistan. Of all the political federations, only Afghanistan has the honor of having each province divided by thick white lines on Google Earth. These can’t be turned off without turning off all borders (by comparison, the US and Canada are divided by thin blue lines—Australia and other federations are not divided). Google wants to say Afghanistan is a Balkanized mess, in-line with current conventional wisdom of the wise Afghanistan hands who have read at least one newspaper article on the subject. Look for Iraq to be next.

Second: The Sea of Japan. The map was first called “Sea of Japan” until (who else) angry Koreans petitioned the company, the name changes to “Japan Sea (East Sea)” and then “East Sea (Sea of Japan).” North and South Korea are the only countries that do not call it “Sea of Japan.” After a few weeks, Google took the position that the body of water was two seas—the East Sea and Sea of Japan.

Of course, when you try to please everyone you end up pleasing no one, which brings us to…

Three: Taiwan. The software angered Taiwan because the island was called a province of Mainland China. So Google changed the clasification—and pissed off the People’s Republic of China.

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Younghusband
December 6, 2005
3:40 pm
What is the Persian Gulf called?
J.Kende
December 6, 2005
8:57 pm
bq. What is the Persian Gulf called?

Why, the 'Sea of Japan' of course.
sun bin
December 6, 2005
9:01 pm
the seas:

it is not just google, "rand mcnally and national geographic society as well":http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_of_Japan_naming_dispute#Response_by_media_and_publishers
nabetz
December 6, 2005
9:14 pm
So apparently the sea in the east is called the Sea of Japan and the sea in the west is called the East Sea. Hmmmm. By this, um, logic?, Mongolia should petition Google. How about "The Mongol Sea" after the Mongols' two nearly successful raids of Japan across "said body of water?":http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_Invasions_of_Japan
J.Kende
December 7, 2005
7:00 pm
Would be nice to see 'China' renamed 'Mongolia' also. Russia too.
nabetz
December 7, 2005
7:05 pm
Be still my beating heart! The Empire Restor'd!
Sonagi
December 7, 2005
7:43 pm
Does Google show the entire maritime boundary of China including most of the South China sea?
sun bin
December 8, 2005
12:23 am
sonagi, do you mean this map?
it certainly is a huge and greedy claim of the sea
!http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/3991/japaneez12bg.jpg!
sun bin
December 8, 2005
12:27 am
or this one?
!http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/4761/japaneez0lc.jpg!
Sonagi
December 8, 2005
12:54 am
No, I mean this:

http://www.9654.com/m/china.htm

and this:

http://maps.51ditu.com/mapintime/maps/map_main.jsp

and this:

http://www.time.ac.cn/serve/sun_time/chinamap.htm

and this:

http://map.map2china.com/china/

I think you get the idea. There are martime boundary disputes in every ocean on earth. Only China makes a point of delineating its claim on every blinkin' map.
sun bin
December 8, 2005
1:23 am
only?
sun bin
December 8, 2005
4:38 am
sonagi,

you asked for it, you got "it":http://sun-bin.blogspot.com/2005/12/greedy-asians.html
:D
Ogle Earth
December 8, 2005
10:49 am
Afghanistan in Google Earth

Coming Anarchy, the blog, finds another interesting border-related feature in Google Earth: Afghanistan is the only country to have its provinces separated by white lines....
Sonagi
December 8, 2005
1:22 pm
Sunbin,

I don't see what you were trying to prove. Ordinary maps of Japan do not mark its maritime claims. Virtually every map of China - from the ones sold in bookstores to maps in books to maps online - includes the Spratly Islands, most of which are occupied and claimed by countries other than China.
sun bin
December 8, 2005
5:22 pm
china does own a few islands, and taiwan has been the only real owner of spratly (the only habitable island with fresh water, the rest are reef, not islands).

so given china's map includes taiwan, and that it view itself as the inheriter of ROC, why is this different?
Sonagi
December 8, 2005
10:16 pm
As you know, it isn't the rocks but the fishing and oil and gas exploration rights that everyone is fighting over. Do not misunderstand my point. I'm not criticizing China for making territorial claims; I'm making fun of China for including all those tiny reefs, most of which are not controlled by China, on its national maps. No other country that I know of does this. Wait a minute. There is one other country - Korea, whose maps include two tiny specks known as Dokdo.
sun bin
December 8, 2005
11:01 pm
well....shouldn't you include japan?
it claims the dokto rock as well.

and japan pioneered such creativity, see "okinotoru rock":http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&rls=GGLD%2CGGLD%3A2005-15%2CGGLD%3Aen&q=okinotori

but you cannot really blame them, they were late to the party of island claiming. the european explorers got all the islands already.
Sonagi
December 9, 2005
1:42 am
Japan doesn't put the rocks on every map like Korea does. I'll repeat one more time, Sunbin. I am not criticizing territorial claims. I AM MAKING FUN OF POLITICALLY CORRECT MAPS. Most countries do not bother to show maritime boundaries or non-inhabited islands, islets, and reefs on ORDINARY MAPS. This is getting repetitive, and I can't make myself any clearer.