UPDATE: Thanks for the heads up Mike—the riots show no sign of slowing down as they enter day eleven:
“This is just the beginning,” said Moussa Diallo, 22, a tall, unemployed French-African man in Clichy-sous-Bois, the working-class Parisian suburb where the violence started Oct. 27. “It’s not going to end until there are two policemen dead.”
ORIGINAL POST:

There is something peversely satisfying in the French riots: the far left must grugingly accept that Muslim rage isn’t all about the Iraq War and US foreign policy. In fact, underneath the Madrid and London bombings was something far beyond the aftermath of 9/11, and instead speaks to the demographic changes taking place inside Europe. Kaplan’s words about the United States in the early 1990s come to mind:
Writing about his immigrant family in turn-of-the-century Chicago, Saul Bellow states, “The country took us over. It was a country then, not a collection of ‘cultures.’”… America began a slow but unmistakable process of transformation. The signs hardly need belaboring: racial polarity, educational dysfunction, social fragmentation of many and various kinds. Africa may be marginal in terms of conventional late-twentieth-century conceptions of strategy, but in an age of cultural and racial clash, when national defense is increasingly local, Africa’s distress will exert a destabilizing influence on the United States.Robert D. Kaplan, The Coming Anarchy
Kaplan later said his dire predictions about racial clashes in the United States were wrong, but the concept holds true: societies that do not properly integrate minorities and immigrants socially and economically will result in the disenfranchised resenting the society they live in. They will lash out, often in bursts of coordinated violence. Europe has a serious problem on its hand that it must figure out by itself.
Interesting tidbits that haven’t shown up in many the mainstream news resports: rioters are coordinating their attacks with text messages and email and that similar riots are taking place in Denmark. And the comparative press coverage is revealing. When Katrina struck, it was evidence of imperial hubris, racial injustice, global warming, overemphasis on terrorism at the expensive of disaster recovery, and all the rest. The European media was less critical of French society, as noted by the EU Referenfum blog:
Just imagine the coverage if this level of rioting was happening in downtown Washington. Just think of the commentary little Claire Balderson would be enjoying if, after a full six days of escalating riots, the president had to take time out to appeal for calm, as indeed Chirac had to do yesterday. The TV would be full of it and the “Washington riots” would be front page of every newspaper, with ponderous articles in The Guardian and Independent about the failure of race relations and the inadequacies of the US capitalist model. But, of course, this isn’t downtown Washington, thousands of miles away. It is in Paris, only just over a hundred from our shores, a neighbour, ally and “partner” in the European Union – champion of the “social model” of which the Guardianistas and the Beebees so approve.

Comments to this entry
Pavlov3
November 7, 2005
3:04 am
I fear France will choose the apeasement path as they have for the past few decades. It will not slake the thirst of the thugs and extremists, it will only encourage them. I hope I am wrong, perhaps France might find a Corsican in these times who might calm things with a "whiff of grape"?
Call me cold hearted, but if you shoot at police and throw fire bombs, I might shoot for the legs, but I would still be shooting.
Mike
November 7, 2005
3:50 am
Mike
November 7, 2005
3:59 am
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/07/international/europe/07france.html?
ElamBend
November 7, 2005
4:59 am
adamu
November 7, 2005
5:21 am
11ish days of rioting is pretty insane, but that comment about "what if it were DC?" made me think -- it really COULD be DC pretty easily.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington%2C_DC_Riot_1991
This wasn't that long ago, and the LA riots happened the next year.
Joe
November 7, 2005
5:39 am
Curzon
November 7, 2005
5:57 am
The DC and LA riots are what made Kaplan write what he wrote in the Coming Anarchy, only to take it back in 2005 ("I was wrong.")
Pavlov3
November 7, 2005
6:34 am
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I have all the sympathy in the world for someone peacefully protest, but torch a school or local shop and you are as one mayor un-politically put it "scum". Which of course was the excuse for the next night's riot.
lirelou
November 7, 2005
7:23 am
davesgonechina
November 7, 2005
7:52 am
I've heard French people make snide remarks about all the racism in the U.S. for years, so part of me gets some evil pleasure out of this. I think this isn't comparable to the riots of DC or LA in the 90s; this is like the race riots of the early 60s - 1964 it was New York (6 days), Rochester(2), Jersey City(3), Paterson(3), Elizabeth(3), Chicago(2) and Philadelphia(3) over late July and August. France is dealing with a similar coming to grips with institutional racism. Send them books on the civil rights movement, now we get to lecture them on Liberté, Ô°galité, and Fraternité.
snow
November 7, 2005
11:26 am
I just hope that it might convince more Europeans that the appeasement of fascist elements doesn't spare them from violence.
And if the French clamp down hard, hopefully some will see that America's not so out of line on security. After all, the French have long known when and how to be strong and nasty, when necessary. Anti-Americans ignore that fact that many countries know how to fight dirty when the going gets rough.
felipe the latinlover
November 7, 2005
12:59 pm
GI Korea
November 7, 2005
1:26 pm
That is what the French need to do. Put out an order of martial law by a certain time and if they are still out burning cars shoot them. They had fair warning. If the French don't respond toughly to this these Muslim radicals will only make more demands, that is how terrorism works. And yes I think this is a form of terrorism.
Chirol
November 7, 2005
4:37 pm
ElamBend
November 7, 2005
4:49 pm
Such a situation existed during the LA riots, when the Marines were required to escort Firefighters and operated on a return all fire immediately policy. The attacks finished quickly. Likewise, vandalism seem to have been focused only on unguarded commercial properties as homes might be defended by gun owners and some commercial properties (famously) were defended by gun owners.
Chief Wiggum
November 7, 2005
5:25 pm
On 11-6-05, the great Mark Steyn wrote:
_Wake up, Europe, you've a war on your hands_
_November 6, 2005_
_BY MARK STEYN SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST_
_Ever since 9/11, I've been gloomily predicting the European powder keg's about to go up. ''By 2010 we'll be watching burning buildings, street riots and assassinations on the news every night,'' I wrote in Canada's Western Standard back in February. Silly me. The Eurabian civil war appears to have started some years ahead of my optimistic schedule. As Thursday's edition of the Guardian reported in London: ''French youths fired at police and burned over 300 cars last night as towns around Paris experienced their worst night of violence in a week of urban unrest.''_
I understand the French government's "go-slow" approach to this. They are hoping this problem will somehow just go away. It won't, but maybe it will run out of steam and make possible another chance to solve or mitigate this through the political process.
I've read that although there are 6 millions muslims in France, about 10% of the population, there is not one muslim member of parliament, nor any muslim mayor of any French city or town. This suggests the powers that be want to keep them out of the political process. This does not augur well for any kind of a quick fix.
Mike
November 7, 2005
5:56 pm
davesgonechina
November 7, 2005
6:59 pm
If you want to see fascism in France, look to Le Pen, not the muslims.
Curzon
November 7, 2005
7:02 pm
tdaxp
November 7, 2005
7:21 pm
Jeremy Rifkin's "The European Dream: Europe Reaps the Whirlwind," with a New Chapter by the Author: "Dhimmitude for Dummies"
Combining two photos from South Dakota Politics about the French riots with an earlier tdaxp pic, I present the future ...
davesgonechina
November 7, 2005
9:13 pm
davesgonechina
November 7, 2005
9:29 pm
GI Korea
November 8, 2005
12:09 am
Either way if this a quasi race riot or an organized Intafadah they are still committing criminal activity and I would still shoot them dead in the street without a second thought if they came to my house to burn it down.
Tiu Fu Fong
November 8, 2005
1:42 am
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/GK08Aa01.html
"There is no evidence in the public domain that Islamist radicals initiated the violence. Nonetheless, generals are chosen by their armies. The Grande Armee did not invade Russia because it was led by Napoleon Bonaparte; rather, Napoleon invaded Russia because he had half a million scavengers to lead, of whom only a tenth were French.
Albrecht von Wallenstein's army did not mutiny against the Austrian throne because its field marshal wished to betray his masters; rather, Wallenstein betrayed Austria because he could not maintain his locust-horde and be loyal to Austria at the same time.
A vast army of young unemployed Muslims, estimated to reach 25 million in the Arab countries alone by 2010, stands at the disposal of the would-be Napoleons and Wallensteins of radical Islam, and they have no choice but to lead it. The outcome well might be a new Algerian War fought on French soil, with all the horrors that attended that conflict just half a century ago."
Norman Long
November 8, 2005
5:06 am