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		<title>By: Alexander Karatis</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2005/10/04/information-warfare-the-battle-of-the-hydaspes-river/comment-page-1/#comment-32266</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexander Karatis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 07:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alexander was trully a great film I loved the emotion, the politics, and Colin Farrel really earned my respect. He understodd the role and gave terrific performances. 

Angelina Jolie and her Russian accent was TERRIBLE, as was the effeminete &quot;gay&quot; scenes. Homoeroticism in Greece was carried out with aquite a manly appearance. Macedonians especially, were what one would consider &quot;macho&quot; and clan-like, warrior-type, men. Even in these homoerotic relationships the way it was carried out wasn&#039;t as was portrayed by Oliver Stone who BTW is a superb craftsman IMO. 

As regards to strategy, Gaugamela was perfect-just too short. The  arial view showing the phalanx formations, and the oblique order, Alexander&#039;s right feint and then his cutting back and charging straight at the Persian center that he managed to thin out by drawing their cavalry to their left flank was AWESOMELY protrayed IMO. It really gave me a better understanding of just how the tactic worked. 

Hydaspes was beautiful from a dramatic and cinematic point of view. The contrasty colours, the scene of AtG charging straight into the Indian infantry and slashing everything in his path, the movie&#039;s best scene where AtG and Bucephalus face Porus and his elephant...Even the aetherial infra-red shots, with the King being carried in his shield and seeing his mate and his  horse down...

I could on and on...I loved the film...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alexander was trully a great film I loved the emotion, the politics, and Colin Farrel really earned my respect. He understodd the role and gave terrific performances. </p>

<p>Angelina Jolie and her Russian accent was <span class="caps">TERRIBLE, </span>as was the effeminete &#8220;gay&#8221; scenes. Homoeroticism in Greece was carried out with aquite a manly appearance. Macedonians especially, were what one would consider &#8220;macho&#8221; and clan-like, warrior-type, men. Even in these homoerotic relationships the way it was carried out wasn&#8217;t as was portrayed by Oliver Stone who <span class="caps">BTW </span>is a superb craftsman <span class="caps">IMO. </span></p>

<p>As regards to strategy, Gaugamela was perfect-just too short. The  arial view showing the phalanx formations, and the oblique order, Alexander&#8217;s right feint and then his cutting back and charging straight at the Persian center that he managed to thin out by drawing their cavalry to their left flank was <span class="caps">AWESOMELY </span>protrayed <span class="caps">IMO.</span> It really gave me a better understanding of just how the tactic worked. </p>

<p>Hydaspes was beautiful from a dramatic and cinematic point of view. The contrasty colours, the scene of AtG charging straight into the Indian infantry and slashing everything in his path, the movie&#8217;s best scene where AtG and Bucephalus face Porus and his elephant&#8230;Even the aetherial infra-red shots, with the King being carried in his shield and seeing his mate and his  horse down&#8230;</p>

<p>I could on and on&#8230;I loved the film&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Cullen Masterson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cullen Masterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 06:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Russian &quot;War and Peace&quot; replicated the battle of Boradino man for man and had overhead helicopter shots.  Seven years to make.  The female lead had her teenage scenes shot when she was 16.  She was 23 by completion of filming, so adult shots were filmed as she grew into them.  Had all the great Russian actors of the day in various roles.  Only the female lead and Prince Andrei were amateurs.  He had been a machinist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Russian &#8220;War and Peace&#8221; replicated the battle of Boradino man for man and had overhead helicopter shots.  Seven years to make.  The female lead had her teenage scenes shot when she was 16.  She was 23 by completion of filming, so adult shots were filmed as she grew into them.  Had all the great Russian actors of the day in various roles.  Only the female lead and Prince Andrei were amateurs.  He had been a machinist.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: sun bin</title>
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		<dc:creator>sun bin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 03:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ZF, thanks. i am aware of that theory.

however, i still think it is implausibly fictional.
because as i know (correct me if i am wrong), coliseum floor is for slave and animal fighting. the winner will be emancipated as free citizen.
has any noble, aristocrat, or even citizen ever fought on the coliseum floor?
to demonstrate bravery and legitimacy why wouldn&#039;t comolus go for a duel with someone at his status, or fight a real war?
winning over a wounded slave is not bravery.

well. this is a movie. i am probably thinking too much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="caps">ZF, </span>thanks. i am aware of that theory.</p>

<p>however, i still think it is implausibly fictional.<br />
because as i know (correct me if i am wrong), coliseum floor is for slave and animal fighting. the winner will be emancipated as free citizen.<br />
has any noble, aristocrat, or even citizen ever fought on the coliseum floor?<br />
to demonstrate bravery and legitimacy why wouldn&#8217;t comolus go for a duel with someone at his status, or fight a real war?<br />
winning over a wounded slave is not bravery.</p>

<p>well. this is a movie. i am probably thinking too much.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Zhang Fei</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zhang Fei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2005 23:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sun bin: &lt;i&gt;the at the end the roman emperor was stupid enough to go into the coliseum to challenge maximus as if he was playing in a cheap HK martial art film.&lt;/i&gt;

Chinese emperors typically inherited their position. Roman emperors usually had to fight for theirs. Commodus inherited his position and may have tried to make up for this by participating in gladiatorial contests. The final scene in Gladiator was fictional, as was the character Maximus, as well as the portrayal of Commodus as effeminate. But Commodus was personally quite the pugilist*, although somewhat lacking in other important qualities of a leader. But look at it this way - even one of the greatest of the Roman emperors, Julius Caesar, ended up getting murdered. 

* The real Commodus would probably have defeated any Roman legatus (Romans did not use the term &quot;general&quot;) put before him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sun bin: <i>the at the end the roman emperor was stupid enough to go into the coliseum to challenge maximus as if he was playing in a cheap HK martial art film.</i></p>

<p>Chinese emperors typically inherited their position. Roman emperors usually had to fight for theirs. Commodus inherited his position and may have tried to make up for this by participating in gladiatorial contests. The final scene in Gladiator was fictional, as was the character Maximus, as well as the portrayal of Commodus as effeminate. But Commodus was personally quite the pugilist*, although somewhat lacking in other important qualities of a leader. But look at it this way &#8211; even one of the greatest of the Roman emperors, Julius Caesar, ended up getting murdered. </p>


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<li>The real Commodus would probably have defeated any Roman legatus (Romans did not use the term &#8220;general&#8221;) put before him.</li>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2005 19:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rome does rule! 

Okay, I watched a couple minutes of &lt;i&gt;Alexander&lt;/i&gt;, and I think I might have to be drunk or really tired for it. I loathe Colin Farrell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rome does rule! </p>

<p>Okay, I watched a couple minutes of <i>Alexander</i>, and I think I might have to be drunk or really tired for it. I loathe Colin Farrell.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Gollios</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gollios</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2005 14:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to warn you, this is slightly off topic.

Speaking of movies...in my opinion one of the best scenes of Napoleonic combat was in Kubrick&#039;s &quot;Barry Lyndon.&quot;  It was slow, measured, and although it didn&#039;t show any views of grand strategy I though it showed the viewpoint of the average soldier quite well.  Anyone else have recommendations for war films showing that era?

(The duels in that movie were also superbly shot...as were those in &quot;The Duelists.&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to warn you, this is slightly off topic.</p>

<p>Speaking of movies&#8230;in my opinion one of the best scenes of Napoleonic combat was in Kubrick&#8217;s &#8220;Barry Lyndon.&#8221;  It was slow, measured, and although it didn&#8217;t show any views of grand strategy I though it showed the viewpoint of the average soldier quite well.  Anyone else have recommendations for war films showing that era?</p>

<p>(The duels in that movie were also superbly shot&#8230;as were those in &#8220;The Duelists.&#8221;)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Curzon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curzon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2005 13:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ROME RULES! Post forthcoming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="caps">ROME RULES</span>! Post forthcoming.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Younghusband</title>
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		<dc:creator>Younghusband</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2005 13:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel I must defend my views on Gladiator. I like Gladiator in the same way I like &quot;The Swordsman II&quot;:http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103295/. In other words, I did not approach Gladiator as a serious historical movie whereas I expected Alexander to be a truly historical movie and was thus disappointed. That&#039;s all.

By the way, anybody watching &quot;Rome&quot;:http://www.hbo.com/rome/ now? I just got the first four eps and am gonna give it a look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel I must defend my views on Gladiator. I like Gladiator in the same way I like <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103295/">The Swordsman II</a>. In other words, I did not approach Gladiator as a serious historical movie whereas I expected Alexander to be a truly historical movie and was thus disappointed. That&#8217;s all.</p>

<p>By the way, anybody watching <a href="http://www.hbo.com/rome/">Rome</a> now? I just got the first four eps and am gonna give it a look.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Curzon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curzon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2005 10:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nathan, the director&#039;s cut just came out too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nathan, the director&#8217;s cut just came out too!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: sun bin</title>
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		<dc:creator>sun bin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2005 06:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nathan,

you can cut directly into the war scenes though :) still worth seeingg and won&#039;t miss much of the moive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nathan,</p>

<p>you can cut directly into the war scenes though :) still worth seeingg and won&#8217;t miss much of the moive.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2005 06:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn it! I never thought a casual mention of someone liking this movie would be enough to convince me to finally watch it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn it! I never thought a casual mention of someone liking this movie would be enough to convince me to finally watch it&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: sun bin</title>
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		<dc:creator>sun bin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2005 06:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think gladiator sucks. but i agree with your pal younghusband&#039;s ciritcism about alexander the &#039;gay&#039;.

the film lacks coherence, and failed to portray gaugamela, and ... hydaspes. you map alone is much better than that whole film.

i don&#039;t understand why hollywood became so reluctant to show maps today. if for visual effect, with all the CGI, they could have shown the aerial view of how Drius was cut into his left field in gaugamela. but all we saw was chaotic body fights.

gladiator&#039;s opening scene is totally confusing, same stupidity of focuing on sword fights. you don&#039;t know who attacked the left and who was on the right in the battle. the at the end the roman emperor was stupid enough to go into the coliseum to challenge maximus as if he was playing in a cheap HK martial art film.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think gladiator sucks. but i agree with your pal younghusband&#8217;s ciritcism about alexander the &#8216;gay&#8217;.</p>

<p>the film lacks coherence, and failed to portray gaugamela, and &#8230; hydaspes. you map alone is much better than that whole film.</p>

<p>i don&#8217;t understand why hollywood became so reluctant to show maps today. if for visual effect, with all the <span class="caps">CGI, </span>they could have shown the aerial view of how Drius was cut into his left field in gaugamela. but all we saw was chaotic body fights.</p>

<p>gladiator&#8217;s opening scene is totally confusing, same stupidity of focuing on sword fights. you don&#8217;t know who attacked the left and who was on the right in the battle. the at the end the roman emperor was stupid enough to go into the coliseum to challenge maximus as if he was playing in a cheap HK martial art film.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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