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ComingAnarchy.com » Blog Archive » More Nobel Prize Controversy — Mon, 10 Oct 2005 13:17:53 +0000

[...] Shortly before I set off for Syria, I noted the latest of many tests for Turkish democracy with regard to it entering the European Union. Turkish author Orhan Pamuk, who wrote Snow and My Name is Red, was charged with “public denigrating of Turkish identity” for discussing the alleged Armenian genocide and the ongoing Kurdish insurgency both of which are strictly kept outside the realm of national debate. Nobel Committee Split Because Of Pamuk [...]

By: Chirol

Chirol — Fri, 02 Sep 2005 09:38:18 +0000

J. Kende: Well said! And this is not a discussion about genocide. On subjects like this, experiene has shown we should agree to disagree and leave it at that. Insulting each other is hardly an intelligent thing to do and doesn nothing but make the offender look bad.

By: J.Kende

J.Kende — Thu, 01 Sep 2005 22:32:44 +0000

To be fair, Rwanda and Sudan have had a level of attention and documentation that was unheard of in conflicts and carnage in the pre-modern communications past. The numbers for the Armenian conflict vary wildly and I can understand why intelligent people could take differing positions on whether it was a genocide or not.

Simply retorting:

“Guess you guys dont know what genocide is?
Bring into question, your general level of intelligence or are you just delusional.

Rwanda was not a genocide and the Sudan is not! Right!!”

Is not very intelligent though. Care to make and detail an actual argument?

By: RADIX

RADIX — Thu, 01 Sep 2005 20:54:54 +0000

Guess you guys dont know what genocide is?
Bring into question, your general level of intelligence or are you just delusional.

Rwanda was not a genocide and the Sudan is not! Right!!!!!

By: Chief Wiggum

Chief Wiggum — Thu, 01 Sep 2005 16:11:17 +0000

Although his comments are now a decade old, Samuel Huntington noted in his excellent book Clash of Civilizations that despite public utterances, most EU heads of state do not want Turkey and its 70 million muslims to be a part of the EU. Chirol is correct to say that incidents of the Pamuk type just make it easier to keep the Turks out.

By: Dan tdaxp

Dan tdaxp — Thu, 01 Sep 2005 16:09:22 +0000

While both Curzon and I don’t consider what happened to the Armenians genocide,

Finally, another normal!