Comments on: Rules Are Made to be Broken http://cominganarchy.com/2005/08/21/rules-are-made-to-be-broken/ Speak Victorian, Think Pagan Sat, 20 Mar 2010 04:47:48 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: IJ http://cominganarchy.com/2005/08/21/rules-are-made-to-be-broken/comment-page-1/#comment-18754 IJ Mon, 22 Aug 2005 16:51:31 +0000 http://www.cominganarchy.com/?p=1018#comment-18754 Chirol, you might appreciate "this article":http://news.ft.com/cms/s/6e74c920-0fa7-11da-bd5c-00000e2511c8.html at the week-end from the FT magazine. Ian Baruma concludes: "For Pax Americana is our pax too; with all its flaws and bloody history, it is still the only one we have got." On the other hand, the 'empire' will have difficulty attracting willing recruits - a common problem for some militaries nowadays. But this palls beside the uncertainty that is likely in the global economy. Chirol, you might appreciate this article at the week-end from the FT magazine. Ian Baruma concludes: “For Pax Americana is our pax too; with all its flaws and bloody history, it is still the only one we have got.”

On the other hand, the ‘empire’ will have difficulty attracting willing recruits – a common problem for some militaries nowadays. But this palls beside the uncertainty that is likely in the global economy.

]]> By: Chirol http://cominganarchy.com/2005/08/21/rules-are-made-to-be-broken/comment-page-1/#comment-18748 Chirol Mon, 22 Aug 2005 13:53:17 +0000 http://www.cominganarchy.com/?p=1018#comment-18748 IJ: Perhaps the biggest problem with collective security is the optimism itself. The world will never be able to get along and work together to achieve eternal peace. The best we can hope for is half-functioning system where most conflicts are resolved peacefully and enough stability is maintained to perpetuate trade and prosperity. Progress is great, but when one looks back over time and the many many attempts at collective security, they have all failed. We must adopt a utilitarian point of view. Collective security through various IO's should merely aim to create the most peace for the most people for the longest amount of time. Nothing more. As Ralph Peters notes in Fighting for the Future: <i>"We must be willing to let the flames burn themselves out when ever we are not in danger of catching fire ourselves. </i> IJ: Perhaps the biggest problem with collective security is the optimism itself. The world will never be able to get along and work together to achieve eternal peace. The best we can hope for is half-functioning system where most conflicts are resolved peacefully and enough stability is maintained to perpetuate trade and prosperity. Progress is great, but when one looks back over time and the many many attempts at collective security, they have all failed. We must adopt a utilitarian point of view. Collective security through various IO’s should merely aim to create the most peace for the most people for the longest amount of time. Nothing more.

As Ralph Peters notes in Fighting for the Future:

“We must be willing to let the flames burn themselves out when ever we are not in danger of catching fire ourselves.

]]> By: IJ http://cominganarchy.com/2005/08/21/rules-are-made-to-be-broken/comment-page-1/#comment-18642 IJ Sun, 21 Aug 2005 16:34:57 +0000 http://www.cominganarchy.com/?p=1018#comment-18642 Many doubt the possibility of international cooperation to achieve collective security. However, NATO are "optimistic":http://www.nato.int/docu/speech/2005/s050429a.htm. "one of NATO's big success stories in recent times has been the establishment of . . .network of partnerships across Central Europe, the Caucasus, Central Asia and now the Muslim countries." But additional links must be formed: "We have to think about the competing organisations such as in the East Asia, the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation and the Russian-led CSTO, the Collective Security Treaty Organisation, we're going to have to perhaps co-opt those and work alongside them if we want to share- and I've talked already about this multilateral intelligence sharing." Many doubt the possibility of international cooperation to achieve collective security. However, NATO are optimistic.

“one of NATO’s big success stories in recent times has been the establishment of . . .network of partnerships across Central Europe, the Caucasus, Central Asia and now the Muslim countries.”

But additional links must be formed: “We have to think about the competing organisations such as in the East Asia, the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation and the Russian-led CSTO, the Collective Security Treaty Organisation, we’re going to have to perhaps co-opt those and work alongside them if we want to share- and I’ve talked already about this multilateral intelligence sharing.”

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