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		<title>By: ComingAnarchy.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Tokyo Travelogue</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2005/07/24/coming-anarchy-in-japan/comment-page-1/#comment-18847</link>
		<dc:creator>ComingAnarchy.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Tokyo Travelogue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 23:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &gt; Blogging Begins: A quick summary of the various locations of the contributors. &gt; Embassy Way: Photos of the Cambodia, Iraqi, and Canadian Embassies, all very close to my house. &gt; The Temple of DOOM: Nuts. Nuff said. &gt; Coffee Ramen: Truly, a unique invention. &gt; The Tokyo Mosque: The largest mosque in Japan&#8230; &gt; St. Nicholai Cathedral: ... and the largest Orthodox Cathedral in Japan. &gt; Tokyo News Roundup: Primarily on whaling. &gt; Tsukiji: The famous fish market. &gt; Japanese Men Fight Back!: my final word in the seperate-but-equal train and subway cars phenomenon. &gt; Honganji Temple: A uniquely constructed Buddhist temple with clear Indian influence. &gt; Earthquake Hits Tokyo: The largest earthquake in 13 years hits Tokyo followed by&#8230; &gt; Typhoon Hits Tokyo: A rather large typhoon. &gt; Coming Anarchy in Japan?: The state of affairs in 21st century Japan. &gt; Izu Island Adventure Preview: A map explaining the route I was talking in my journey to the Izu Islands. &gt; Izu Island Adventure: A few pictures from the trip. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &gt; Blogging Begins: A quick summary of the various locations of the contributors. &gt; Embassy Way: Photos of the Cambodia, Iraqi, and Canadian Embassies, all very close to my house. &gt; The Temple of <span class="caps">DOOM</span>: Nuts. Nuff said. &gt; Coffee Ramen: Truly, a unique invention. &gt; The Tokyo Mosque: The largest mosque in Japan&#8230; &gt; St. Nicholai Cathedral: &#8230; and the largest Orthodox Cathedral in Japan. &gt; Tokyo News Roundup: Primarily on whaling. &gt; Tsukiji: The famous fish market. &gt; Japanese Men Fight Back!: my final word in the seperate-but-equal train and subway cars phenomenon. &gt; Honganji Temple: A uniquely constructed Buddhist temple with clear Indian influence. &gt; Earthquake Hits Tokyo: The largest earthquake in 13 years hits Tokyo followed by&#8230; &gt; Typhoon Hits Tokyo: A rather large typhoon. &gt; Coming Anarchy in Japan?: The state of affairs in 21st century Japan. &gt; Izu Island Adventure Preview: A map explaining the route I was talking in my journey to the Izu Islands. &gt; Izu Island Adventure: A few pictures from the trip. [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2005/07/24/coming-anarchy-in-japan/comment-page-1/#comment-16579</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2005 04:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mutantfrog,

Total GDP reflects power -- both purchasing and otherwise.   Power affects living standards, both in the short term (greater purchasing power == lower prices) and long term (less power == less ability to shape the world to what you desire).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mutantfrog,</p>

<p>Total <span class="caps">GDP </span>reflects power &#8212; both purchasing and otherwise.   Power affects living standards, both in the short term (greater purchasing power  lower prices) and long term (less power  less ability to shape the world to what you desire).</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mutantfrog</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2005/07/24/coming-anarchy-in-japan/comment-page-1/#comment-16495</link>
		<dc:creator>Mutantfrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2005 15:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got to agree with you on that one Curzon. Japan is definitely far more xenophobic than any Western country, but actually more liberal than many other Asian countries. I think Japan&#039;s xenophobia gets so much press in English media simply because it&#039;s the most popular destination for Asiaphiles.

In legal terms Japan is actually FAR more liberal than Taiwan. When I went to study in Japan I had absolutely no trouble getting a one year visa before I went, and was able to obtain an Alien Registration Card almost as soon as I arrived, which makes it easy to do anything that any other resident does, such as sign a cellphone contract or open a bank account.

Taiwan only gives foreigners a two month visitors visa, which can be extended, but only as far as you can actually prove you have business in the country. This means that my visa currently only lasts until about a week after this school term is over, although once I register for the next term I can register again. After four months of continuous gainful employment or study you can change your short term visa to an ARC (alien residence certificate), and only then can you actually sign a cellphone contract without paying a hefty deposit.

Japan&#039;s treatment of other Asians is VERY different from that of westerners, but quite frankly, almost any American or European who complains about their treatment in Japan needs to get some perspective. Not that Japan doesn&#039;t need to improve, but I think more for the benefit of other Asians than for us.

As for the declining population, why would anyone in their right mind care about the total GDP? As long as they can maintain PER CAPITA GDP there will be basically no problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got to agree with you on that one Curzon. Japan is definitely far more xenophobic than any Western country, but actually more liberal than many other Asian countries. I think Japan&#8217;s xenophobia gets so much press in English media simply because it&#8217;s the most popular destination for Asiaphiles.</p>

<p>In legal terms Japan is actually <span class="caps">FAR </span>more liberal than Taiwan. When I went to study in Japan I had absolutely no trouble getting a one year visa before I went, and was able to obtain an Alien Registration Card almost as soon as I arrived, which makes it easy to do anything that any other resident does, such as sign a cellphone contract or open a bank account.</p>

<p>Taiwan only gives foreigners a two month visitors visa, which can be extended, but only as far as you can actually prove you have business in the country. This means that my visa currently only lasts until about a week after this school term is over, although once I register for the next term I can register again. After four months of continuous gainful employment or study you can change your short term visa to an <span class="caps">ARC </span>(alien residence certificate), and only then can you actually sign a cellphone contract without paying a hefty deposit.</p>

<p>Japan&#8217;s treatment of other Asians is <span class="caps">VERY </span>different from that of westerners, but quite frankly, almost any American or European who complains about their treatment in Japan needs to get some perspective. Not that Japan doesn&#8217;t need to improve, but I think more for the benefit of other Asians than for us.</p>

<p>As for the declining population, why would anyone in their right mind care about the total <span class="caps">GDP</span>? As long as they can maintain <span class="caps">PER CAPITA GDP </span>there will be basically no problems.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Curzon</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2005/07/24/coming-anarchy-in-japan/comment-page-1/#comment-16434</link>
		<dc:creator>Curzon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2005 04:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is much Japanese commentary on the subject of demographics and China, and plenty of newspapers and sources do advocate opening up the country to immigrants, including the two largest papers, the Asahi and the Yomiuri.  The issue of social collapse is rarely mentioned.  When it does come up, lazy youth, foreigners, an other bubaboos come up.  The society itself, which has gotten Japan through so much, is never mentioned as the problem.  As for the declining birth rate, there are ups and downs.  Yes, Japan&#039;s GDP will not be able to sustain itself, but let&#039;s face it: nowhere else on this planet needs less people!

As for foreigners, Japan is not as xenophobic as books written on the country in the 1970s and 1980s would have you think.  The foreign population, generally cited as &gt;1% until 2000, is now more than 1.5% nationwide and 3% in Tokyo.  Permanent residency and naturalization requirements have been eased also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is much Japanese commentary on the subject of demographics and China, and plenty of newspapers and sources do advocate opening up the country to immigrants, including the two largest papers, the Asahi and the Yomiuri.  The issue of social collapse is rarely mentioned.  When it does come up, lazy youth, foreigners, an other bubaboos come up.  The society itself, which has gotten Japan through so much, is never mentioned as the problem.  As for the declining birth rate, there are ups and downs.  Yes, Japan&#8217;s <span class="caps">GDP </span>will not be able to sustain itself, but let&#8217;s face it: nowhere else on this planet needs less people!</p>

<p>As for foreigners, Japan is not as xenophobic as books written on the country in the 1970s and 1980s would have you think.  The foreign population, generally cited as &gt;1% until 2000, is now more than 1.5% nationwide and 3% in Tokyo.  Permanent residency and naturalization requirements have been eased also.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Cullen Masterson</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2005/07/24/coming-anarchy-in-japan/comment-page-1/#comment-16433</link>
		<dc:creator>Cullen Masterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2005 03:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Japanese are ... building robots to perform menial repetitive tasks, rather than pollute ... &quot;  RichL

Methinks the profit motive is the primary operative.  There are undeniable side benefits.  But that 27 year old mother with her 3 year old son would have starved just as quickly, super robots aside.  Unless you believe in the countless anime enactments, where they assemble a robotic companion from derelict parts and sally forth to rage together against the universe ...

Most of the big companies are outsourcing, automation included.  They are completely unconcerned with the local labor pool&#039;s problems.

Regarding Curzon&#039;s original post from Australia&#039;s The Age ... Good stuff, but are there any good Japanese sources for commentary on this sort of thing?  Japan&#039;s inner conflicts.  Diminishing expectations.  Disintegrating social strictures.  China looming and a ticking clock ... ??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Japanese are &#8230; building robots to perform menial repetitive tasks, rather than pollute &#8230; &#8221;  RichL</p>

<p>Methinks the profit motive is the primary operative.  There are undeniable side benefits.  But that 27 year old mother with her 3 year old son would have starved just as quickly, super robots aside.  Unless you believe in the countless anime enactments, where they assemble a robotic companion from derelict parts and sally forth to rage together against the universe &#8230;</p>

<p>Most of the big companies are outsourcing, automation included.  They are completely unconcerned with the local labor pool&#8217;s problems.</p>

<p>Regarding Curzon&#8217;s original post from Australia&#8217;s The Age &#8230; Good stuff, but are there any good Japanese sources for commentary on this sort of thing?  Japan&#8217;s inner conflicts.  Diminishing expectations.  Disintegrating social strictures.  China looming and a ticking clock &#8230; ??</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: RichL</title>
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		<dc:creator>RichL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2005 01:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Japanese are trying to deal with their demographic issues by building robots to perform menial repetitive tasks, rather than pollute the homeland with Gaijin. Many of the big companies are working on this now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Japanese are trying to deal with their demographic issues by building robots to perform menial repetitive tasks, rather than pollute the homeland with Gaijin. Many of the big companies are working on this now.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2005/07/24/coming-anarchy-in-japan/comment-page-1/#comment-16428</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2005 01:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frightening to see the harm that a Leftist/liberal education system can do.  Also well documented in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0618138943?v=glance&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Japan Unbound&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frightening to see the harm that a Leftist/liberal education system can do.  Also well documented in <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0618138943?v=glance">Japan Unbound</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Cullen Masterson</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2005/07/24/coming-anarchy-in-japan/comment-page-1/#comment-16319</link>
		<dc:creator>Cullen Masterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2005 08:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Another possibility, the most worrying for the region, is that it will end up like an angry and wizened pensioner: rigid, dyspeptic and looking for someone to blame.&quot;  See:  Europe.

&quot;... 850,000 people aged between 15 and 34 are described as &quot;not in employment, education or training&quot;Ã‚? (called NEETS)... four million freelancers, known as &quot;freeters&quot;Ã‚?, who do not seek full-time employment...&quot;  Two excellent terms here:  NEETS &amp; freeters.  These may be new to Japan.  But they&#039;ve been full blown in the west since the 1960s.

Japan is a heads up for the west.  Demographics are accentuated there because of their ban on immigration.  The problems with continuation of aging social programs in Germany, France and the US will come to a head first in Japan.

GWB can warn about coming age group stresses.  But in Japan a young lady pushes an uppity pensioner in front of a train.  This is brought on by abortion, and other life choices in the west.  Declining birth rate.  Europe is importing a muslim replacement labor force.  Britain brings in Africans as well as muslims.  In the US, Hispanics are the chosen labor pool.  All come with built in problems.

Japan has avoided these problems with its severe immigration policy.  But they cannot avoid the problems brought on by the declining birth rate.  Accompanied by western style self-actualization.  Self-empowerment.  The me generation.  All done Japanese style.  Should be interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Another possibility, the most worrying for the region, is that it will end up like an angry and wizened pensioner: rigid, dyspeptic and looking for someone to blame.&#8221;  See:  Europe.</p>

<p>&#8220;&#8230; 850,000 people aged between 15 and 34 are described as &#8220;not in employment, education or training&#8221;&Atilde;‚? (called <span class="caps">NEETS</span>)&#8230; four million freelancers, known as &#8220;freeters&#8221;&Atilde;‚?, who do not seek full-time employment&#8230;&#8221;  Two excellent terms here:  <span class="caps">NEETS </span>&amp; freeters.  These may be new to Japan.  But they&#8217;ve been full blown in the west since the 1960s.</p>

<p>Japan is a heads up for the west.  Demographics are accentuated there because of their ban on immigration.  The problems with continuation of aging social programs in Germany, France and the US will come to a head first in Japan.</p>

<p><span class="caps">GWB </span>can warn about coming age group stresses.  But in Japan a young lady pushes an uppity pensioner in front of a train.  This is brought on by abortion, and other life choices in the west.  Declining birth rate.  Europe is importing a muslim replacement labor force.  Britain brings in Africans as well as muslims.  In the <span class="caps">US,</span> Hispanics are the chosen labor pool.  All come with built in problems.</p>

<p>Japan has avoided these problems with its severe immigration policy.  But they cannot avoid the problems brought on by the declining birth rate.  Accompanied by western style self-actualization.  Self-empowerment.  The me generation.  All done Japanese style.  Should be interesting.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: lane</title>
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		<dc:creator>lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2005 15:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Login:rupertpacker
Pass: milliways

Got it &lt;a href=&quot;http://bugmenot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here.&lt;/a&gt;

I, like Chirol, would like to read more about the structure of society in Japan. You keep posting and I&#039;ll keep reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Login:rupertpacker<br />
Pass: milliways</p>

<p>Got it <a href="http://bugmenot.com/">here.</a></p>

<p>I, like Chirol, would like to read more about the structure of society in Japan. You keep posting and I&#8217;ll keep reading.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Chirol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chirol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2005 14:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting to read about similar problems in Japan&#039;s social system! Do you have any more information about its general structure, the ideals or morals on which they base their society and its system etc?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting to read about similar problems in Japan&#8217;s social system! Do you have any more information about its general structure, the ideals or morals on which they base their society and its system etc?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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