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By: 5GW Link Spotting: Baudrillard’s Bastard - “hackers, power grids, and (dis)information” « PurpleSlog

Wed, 23 Jan 2008 00:53:14 +0000

[...] and (dis)information. Virilio’s theory suggests that in an information war (one tactic of 5GW), the dominate form of 21st-century warfare, “information and disinformation have become [...]

By: PurpleSlog » Blog Archive » 5GW Reply and Intro to ThunderPig and other stuff

Tue, 30 May 2006 07:23:03 +0000

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By: Dan

Dan — Thu, 21 Jul 2005 12:47:35 +0000

4GW requires the attacker to have a politically mobilized population and the attacker’s goal is to destroy the enemy’s will to resist.

However, a politically mobilized population makes 5GW more difficult and 5GW attackers have no need to attack an enemy’s will.

By: heirabbit

heirabbit — Thu, 21 Jul 2005 11:27:31 +0000

I’m still not clear on what the key difference is between 4GW and 5GW. I thought 4GW’s main feature was that the enemy has no discernable organization, and that they fight with whatever means available. What you guys are saying about 5GW really sounds more like a W 4.1.

By: Kenneth

Kenneth — Thu, 21 Jul 2005 03:46:51 +0000

Rigourous.

By: Dan

Dan — Thu, 21 Jul 2005 01:27:03 +0000

I see dead people.

oops.

Not dead people. 5GWs. Yeah. That’s it.

/ end self-promotion

By: tdaxp

tdaxp — Wed, 20 Jul 2005 13:25:44 +0000

OODA Loop as Flowchart, Try 2

Earlier, in a post picked up by Coming Anarchy, ZenPundit, and others, I attempted to reconstruct the OODA Loop as a flowchart. You may remember I drew it like this: Since that post, I have been in an email conversation with an expert on O…

By: Dan

Dan — Wed, 20 Jul 2005 01:41:09 +0000

Younghusband

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By: Kenneth

Kenneth — Tue, 19 Jul 2005 23:31:58 +0000

Intriguing. However, I foresee the emergence of entirely decentralized mass movements in the coming decades resulting from severe cultural dislocation. Quite simply, a “cause” may consist of many individual groups with no overarching coordination or even communication, each working to the advancement of the cause, ie, radical Islam, some other politico-religious movement, ect. That is how I envision 21st century warfare: completely decentralized. Robert D. Kaplan mentioned in the first chapter of The Coming Anarchy that these wars “will ripple across continents with no discernible pattern” or something to that effect. Logically the only way for this to happen is what I described above.

By: mark safranski

mark safranski — Tue, 19 Jul 2005 20:31:32 +0000

Curtis ( and YH)

Thank you for these links

Yes, I have heard about the concept though I have not seen a translation of their work ( and actually half-forgot it to be frank).

What I can tell you is that these Chinese Colonels sparked a classified course in Aysmmetric Warfare concepts at the request of the DoD at ( I believe) National Defense U. The prof who developed the course asked to use some material I had posted on H-Net to which I agreed. Unfortunately she was not permitted to share the syllabus or course material with me – so I’m not sure exactly what or how my ideas were interpreted or in what context other than asymmetric warfare by China was suddenly a very big concern for the pentagon at the time.

Thank you. This was a topic I really ought to have pursued at the time and never did. The reminder was useful !

By: Curtis Gale Weeks

Curtis Gale Weeks — Tue, 19 Jul 2005 19:15:12 +0000

I wonder if they’re familiar with the concept of “unrestricted warfare” first conceived by Chinese Colonels Qiao Liang and Wang Xiangsui in 1999, which includes: terrorism, economic & diplomatic warfare, computer hackers, and other unconventional warfare.

A couple links:

Jane’s Intelligence Review

Global Security. org

[I edited that link for you Curtis. – Younghusband]