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Japan News Roundup

“I guess I do feel sorry for the whales,” said Shun Ishimura, 7, shyly fiddling with his L.A. Dodgers T-shirt. Like many of the children, he was tasting whale flesh for the first time. He said that despite his feelings, he “ate it anyway because it looked so good. And when I ate it, I liked it. Whale is really delicious.

Thank you, Washington Post! Could you make Japan sound any more cruel? Why not tell the world they eat the beating hearts of their enemies while you’re at it!

This whole whale thing: Japan’s whalers kill several hundred animals a year. When the film Chicken Run came out, the animated chickens were used in a Burger King advertisement where they held signs that said “Save the Chickens – eat a Whopper!” A PETA spokesman said this was actually a good thing—less per capita pain and suffering was caused by killing cows (one cow equals many burgers, but a basket of chicken wings comes from… lots of chickens). Should not the same logic apply to whales? You are getting one helluva lot of meat from one animal.

Seriously, why the fuss? We don’t give a damn about the millions of chickens, pigs, and cows killed every year, not to mention the people killed by war, starvation, AIDS, cancer, whatever. As long as they whale population has recovered—and it appears it has—why not allow commercial whaling? Japan says it’s cultural imperialism, and aren’t they right? If India was the world’s superpower, we’d all be criticized for eating beef. And Joe and I agree with Ishimura—whale meat is delicious.

[And for what it’s worth, look at what school district is pushing whale meat!]

Also, Koizumi is holding talks today with President Roh of the ROK. Perhaps the two can discuss this outrage. (Savages.)

Here’s another great story to begin my Monday with: Tokyo is world’s most expensive city, says study.

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Fabian
June 20, 2005
4:34 am
It's because they keep insisting the whaling is for "scientific research". They should just come clean and admit it's all because they loooove the taste of whale.
Curzon
June 20, 2005
4:42 am
C'mon, WHO CARES how they justify it. I mean, we said we invaded Iraq for freedom and democracy and no one cares two craps about that anymore.
Mike
June 20, 2005
5:56 am
Holy cow, those Korean kids are nuts! This is approaching "Chinese level" nationalism. North East Asia is in a long slow spiral into a WWI type engagement. Japan and Taiwan vs. Korea and China. If these people don't cool their hate, they will hit a point of no return.
asiapundit
June 20, 2005
7:39 am
taste the whales

Curzon offers a roundup of Japanese news, centered on the taste of whale.:"I guess I do feel sorry for the whales,"Â? said Shun Ishimura, 7, shyly fiddling with his L.A. Dodgers T-shirt. Like many of the children, he was tasting
Mutantfrog
June 20, 2005
3:21 pm
Sure there are plenty of animal rights activists and conservationists that are just against killing whales on principal, but don't you think it's wrong for Japan to sign a treaty banning commercial whaling and then continue catching whales for food under false pretenses. What was stopping them from staying out of the treaty and engaging in commercial whaling like Norway?
Saru
June 20, 2005
4:48 pm
So, truth is finally outed.

The real reason Japan doesn't deserve a perm seat on the UNSC: they are a bunch of barbaric whale killers!

Cheers again to the Post, which always strives to bring to its readers only the most crucial issues facing Japan.
Dr. Alfred Russel Wallace
June 21, 2005
2:10 am
My experience in Norway is that whale meat is relatively unpopular - but being told not to catch it by International outsiders is even more unpopular. I think that if everyone shut up about it for a decade, whaling would die of its own accord
Mutantfrog
June 21, 2005
8:15 am
Whale meat isn't very popular in Japan either. Last year something like 20% of the meat they caught had to be deep frozen because their isn't enough market for it. It boggles the mind why they would want to expand the catches with the market for whale meat being so poor.
Saru
June 21, 2005
12:19 pm
I have absolutely no proof for backing this up other than experience with Japan, but this smells like whale fishermen in Japan are politically well organized. It wouldn't be the first time a small, small minority group hijacked the system for what on the surface seems to be a mind-boggling reason.
Mutant Frog Travelogue » Blog Archive » Japan’s whaling diplomacy: Connections to ODA
June 21, 2005
5:58 pm
[...] ust seems like the bozos in government who are really interested in making people into it. Curzon thinks it’s a good source of meat. I agree, with some reservati [...]
ComingAnarchy.com » Blog Archive » Adding one to the pile
July 27, 2005
12:00 am
[...] Japan has lots of issues and scandals. We have only covered history books, wartime apologies, beef imports, gender relations, whaling, Article 9, so-called foreign criminals, and the beloved Jenkins. Above and beyond those are milk scandals, management crises, iron-triangle problems, mercury poisoning and a horde of other topics. But today we have teh return of something that has been on the back burner for a while, and that is asbestos: The Economist ... Although the World Health Organisation declared in 1980 that asbestos was a carcinogen, its use in construction was not banned in Japan until 2004, and a ban on all asbestos—introduced in July—will not come into effect until 2008. ... The country lags decades behind other industrialised nations when it comes to containing the harmfulness of asbestos. All six regional Japan Railway (JR) companies created after privatisation in 1987 still use carriages insulated with asbestos. JR East has announced that it will decommission 90 of its 250 asbestos-containing carriages by 2006. [...]
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August 24, 2005
1:21 am
[...] > Blogging Begins: A quick summary of the various locations of the contributors. > Embassy Way: Photos of the Cambodia, Iraqi, and Canadian Embassies, all very close to my house. > The Temple of DOOM: Nuts. Nuff said. > Coffee Ramen: Truly, a unique invention. > The Tokyo Mosque: The largest mosque in Japan… > St. Nicholai Cathedral: ... and the largest Orthodox Cathedral in Japan. > Tokyo News Roundup: Primarily on whaling. > Tsukiji: The famous fish market. > Japanese Men Fight Back!: my final word in the seperate-but-equal train and subway cars phenomenon. > Honganji Temple: A uniquely constructed Buddhist temple with clear Indian influence. > Earthquake Hits Tokyo: The largest earthquake in 13 years hits Tokyo followed by… > Typhoon Hits Tokyo: A rather large typhoon. > Coming Anarchy in Japan?: The state of affairs in 21st century Japan. > Izu Island Adventure Preview: A map explaining the route I was talking in my journey to the Izu Islands. > Izu Island Adventure: A few pictures from the trip. [...]
ComingAnarchy.com » Blog Archive » Fujimori, Pirates, and More
November 8, 2005
3:56 pm
[...] Japan has resumed whaling with earnest, and again, the media takes no prisoners. Best headline goes to New Zealand’s One News: Japan whaling fleet on Minke plunder. (Be against whaling if you like, it’s all a distraction from the vast overfishing of fish, not whales, that is the real environmental issue of the day. And as for the ban on hunting whales, nothing makes people want to eat this relatively untasty meat than being told they can’t eat it by a bunch of self-righteous outsiders.) What say you? [...]
Justin
November 14, 2005
5:41 am
This is a good post, and you made a very salient point over at Japundit (where I found this link in your comment).
Gaijin Biker
January 19, 2006
2:44 am
Mr. Pibb + whale meat = crazy delicious!
Riding Sun
January 19, 2006
4:27 am
And that's without blogging expenses

Via Curzon, Ireland's Sunday Business Post Online reports
TokyoTom
January 19, 2006
6:04 am
Readers might note that Gaijin Biker, who I see IS a whale-eater, has two threads on this topic, with relevant discussions on the high seas right of way rules (as a motorcycle fanatic and trained lawyer, he cares ALOT about traffic rules) - with links to videos - and haplessness of Japan's whaling diplomacy:

http://www.ridingsun.com/posts/1137214535.shtml
http://www.ridingsun.com/posts/1137386947.shtml

Why the fuss about whales, as opposed to chickens and cows? Simple - people own chickens and cows and have a vested interest in making sure they leave an ample breeding stock. No one owns the whales, which is why many have been hunted to near extinction, finally causing the collapse of the industry and getting whalers to agree to a moratorium. Many species have shown no recovery after decades of protection, other stocks of some species are doing well enough to justify a regulated take.

Does Japan's large take for "research" - in substantial breach of its IWCR obligations, in defiance of strict CITES protection of all baleen whales, in violation of the laws of Australia and New Zealand establishing the South Pacific sanctuary, in the face of other nations respecting the IWC moratorium, on a subsidized basis, and notwithstanding the much larger commercial whale-watching industry - serve as a productive stepping stone toward building a consensus among IWC member countries to establish an effective international regime that will provide for sustainable harvesting of whales?

I suppose not.

And what is Japan doing to establish conservation and harvesting regimes for the fishing stocks that provide the basis for the world's largest fish market? If you guess nothing, then you'd be correct. And where is all of this heading, if not off a cliff?
darin
January 29, 2006
10:36 am
I'm wa~y late on this one.. but....
Mutantfrog:
What was stopping [Japan] from staying out of the treaty and engaging in commercial whaling like Norway?

Here's the answer;
When the commercial whaling moratorium was introduced by the IWC in 1982, Japan lodged an official objection, but withdrew this objection in 1987 after the United States threatened it with sanctions. Thus Japan became bound by the moratorium, unlike Norway, Russia and (more disputed) Iceland.

"Unlike Norway, Japan had a gun to it's head":http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whaling#Japan