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TNR Gets it Right

The New Republic, a left of center but very thoughtful, provocative publication, jumps on board in pummelling Amnesty for their Gitmo-Gulag comparison. Article here (but free registration required). Summary below.

GULAG V. GITMO
Equivalency Test
by David Bosco Only at TNR Online
Post date: 06.03.05

Individuals Detained:

Gulag: Approximately 20 million passed through the Gulag. The population at any one time was generally around two million.

Guantánamo: 750 prisoners have passed through the camp. The current population is about 520.

Reasons for Imprisonment:

Gulag: Opposition to the Soviet regime’s forced collectivization, including efforts to hide grain in cellars; owning too many cows; need for slave labor to complete massive industrialization and mining projects; political opposition to the Soviet system; being Jewish; being Finnish; being religious; being middle class; being in need of reeducation; having had contact with foreigners; refusing to sleep with the head of Soviet counterintelligence; telling a joke about Stalin.

Guantánamo: Fighting for the fundamentalist Taliban in Afghanistan; being suspected of links to Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups.

Deaths:

Gulag: At least two to three million.

Guantánamo: No reports of prisoner deaths.

Typical Treatment:

Gulag: For the most part, Gulag prisoners provided labor for the Soviet system. Treatment varied widely, but most prisoners lived in overcrowded barracks, and prisoners occasionally killed one another in an effort to find space to sleep. Deadly dysentery and typhus outbreaks were common. Prisoners often had inadequate clothing to protect themselves from the elements, and most camps lacked running water and heat.

Guantánamo: A recent Time magazine report found that “the best-behaved detainees are held in Camp 4, a medium-security, communal-living environment with as many as 10 beds in a room; prisoners can play soccer or volleyball outside up to nine hours a day, eat meals together and read Agatha Christie mysteries in Arabic. Less cooperative detainees typically live and eat in small, individual cells and get to exercise and shower only twice a week.” Human Rights Watch and other watchdog groups have collected firsthand testimony from prisoners alleging abuses, including the use of dogs, extended solitary confinement, sexual humiliation, and “stress positions.” An official investigation uncovered only minor abuses, and most detainee accusations have not been verified.

Religious Observance:

Gulag: Prisoners were occasionally able to smuggle bibles into the camps and hold religious observances, including Christmas and Easter, in secret. Being caught conducting services, however, could be grounds for further punishment. Applebaum records a prisoner’s description of a priest creeping through a camp, trying to say mass without being detected.

Guantánamo: Prisoners are provided copies of the Koran and daily time for prayer. Arrows on the floor of each cell point to Mecca. Meals are made in accordance with Muslim religious restrictions. Several prisoners, however, reported delays in receiving their copies of the Koran and that guards mistreated the Koran on multiple occasions. For its part, the Pentagon has documented five instances of Koran mishandling though it denies that a Koran was ever flushed down the toilet, as one detainee alleged.

The detention center at Guantánamo is legally dubious and has been a public relations disaster for the United States. The treatment of certain prisoners in Iraq and Afghanistan has been far worse. Amnesty’s president Irene Kahn says that these practices are “undermining human rights in a dramatic way.” Her outrage is valuable and essential. If only she could express it without employing obscene moral parallels.

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Mom
June 5, 2005
1:08 am
Couldn't agree more. If Guantanamo is actually the gulag of our times, we're in pretty good shape.
Ron Patterson
June 5, 2005
2:04 am
Of course it is not comparable to the Soviet Gulags. They were murder factories bent on extinguishing freedom and hop. The facility at Guantanamo is a reaction to an unprecedented circustances. But if abuse is occuring there or has occurred there it must be dealt with. How dare the U.S. try to sweep under the rug or spin news of torture. This is far more dangerous than the insurgency in Iraq. Why give our enemies ammunition. why take the moral low road. Rumsfeld should resign and a cleaning of the military must take place. For the U.S. to change to a nation of torture gives the Islamic extrmist there greatest victory.
Chirol
June 5, 2005
9:57 am
A spot on comparison. As Mom said, if this is the "worst" then we've made a lot of progress over the years.
Mutantfrog
June 5, 2005
10:48 am
The gulag comparison was kind of over the top, but concentrating only on a single metaphor used in the report is really just an excuse to ignore whatever factual claims there may be instead of addressing them in an honest way.

This administration, which is all of a sudden so ready to belittle Amnesty as soon as they become a target of criticism, has been extremely dependent on Amnesty's reports on foreign governments in the past. To quote today's Washington Post.


Rumsfeld repeatedly cited Amnesty when he was making the case against Saddam Hussein, urging "a careful reading of Amnesty International" and saying that according to "Amnesty International's description of what they know has gone on, it's not a happy picture."

The White House often cited Amnesty to make the case for war in Iraq, using the group's allegations that Iraq executed dozens of women accused of prostitution, decapitated victims and displayed their heads, tortured political opponents and raped detainees' relatives, gouged out eyes, and used electric shocks.

Regarding Fidel Castro's Cuba, meanwhile, the White House joined Amnesty and other groups in condemning Castro's "callous disregard for due process."

And the State Department's most recent annual report on worldwide human rights abuses cites Amnesty's findings dozens of times.
mark safranski
June 5, 2005
4:53 pm
I still find it interesting that Khan could decry Guantanamo as a "gulag" while ignoring Castro's nearby prisons and labor camps that are filled with artists, writers, democracy and human rights activists instead of guys who glorify in mass-murder and advocate slavery for unbelieving "kufrs".

Amnesty is unfortunately part of the problem and not the solution.