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May 4th, 2005

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Nuke Pyongyang, Reconsidered

I do not appreciate you ignorant and impudent peons commenting on things you have no knowledge of. I have noted your names. That is all.

Vladimir Putin

Kidding!

Thank you all for the comments on this post, most of which were very constructive and though-provoking. Yeah, I think the 95% of you who disagreed with me are probably right. To articulate what I should have said more clearly: “I can admit that the argument [to nuke North Korea] looks nuts… but preemptive strikes are not a consideration we should ignore.” Consider everything. The US and North Korea are on a collision course for disaster, and to paraphrase Eddie (an active US military personnel in the region), we have to think through every scenario to prepare for anything. I blame Jimmy Carter for the North Korea mess and Bush needs to do something to neutralize those assholes. Since we in the quasi-anonymous blogosphere can get away with thinking pagan sans the Victorian rhetoric, it’s good to bring these things out to discuss.

Sir Francis Younghusband recalled a late night in 2002 when several of us were enjoying drinks and some late-night political discourse when Saru asked, “What would happen if we nuked Israel?” At the time, even Lord Curzon the gentile was furious—but provocative arguments bring out good discussion, and this nuke North Korea dialogue was no exception. Special thanks in particular go to Plunge, Gabriel, Eddie, and KimCheeGI for really making me think, and Mark of Zenpundit for recalling this post that scrutinized South Korea’s strategic status. I also liked Kromozone’s comment at the Marmot’s Hole:

S. Korea never should have dismantled their own nuclear weapons program. Kick the U.S. out, stock up on nukes, and arms race the North into economic oblivion. Reagan would be so proud of their strategy, it’s the exact same thing he did!

Great stuff, all of you. Thanks for joining in the fun. Just do me a favor: never forget what Kim Jong Il really is . . .

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BillyBob
May 4, 2005
12:58 pm
Just don't forget what we're up against

"Worse then 1g84":http://slate.com/id/2117846/

by Hitchins

Kim Jong-il and his fellow slave masters are trying to dictate the pace of events by setting a timetable of nuclearization, based on a crash program wrung from their human property. But why should it be assumed that their failed state and society are permanent? Another timeline, oriented to liberation and regime change, is what the dynasty most fears. It should start to fear it more. Bravo to President Bush, anyway, for his bluntness.
Dan
May 4, 2005
1:16 pm
I realize that Jimmy Carter is history's greatest monster, but how did he influence the stability of North Korea?
Curzon
May 4, 2005
1:20 pm
Carter unilaterally went to North Korea in 1994 and undermined Clinton's negotiations and opportunity to premptively strike. For more info, watch "this great PBS program.":http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/kim/view/
Saru
May 4, 2005
1:32 pm
For the record, and before any untoward remarks are made here or elsewhere about my person, I do not advocate nuking Israel.
Dan
May 4, 2005
2:45 pm
Ah, yes. Thank you for the link. I was worried there was some hidden 1977-1981 policy I did not know about.

Mr. Carter's unique foreign policies don't do the nation much good. (Unlike constructive former Presidents, such as Bush and Clinton.)
Dusty
May 4, 2005
7:52 pm
I did some googling and think it was Jaques Chirac, not Vladimir Putin on the quote. :-) Be back later!
tdaxp
May 5, 2005
2:20 am
Coming Anarchy on Slate

Lord Curzon messages me to say that his article promoting pre-emptive nuclear obliteration of Pyongyang was mentioned in Slate. Congrats!
Chirol
May 9, 2005
8:41 pm
It seems someone's been listening to you Curzon:


U.S. may allow nuke strikes over WMD

WASHINGTON (Kyodo) The U.S. military is considering allowing regional combatant commanders to request presidential approval for pre-emptive nuclear strikes against possible attacks with weapons of mass destruction on the United States or its allies, according to a draft nuclear operations paper.