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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2005/03/09/roks-oil-adventures/comment-page-1/#comment-59812</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 15:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just surfed onto this website mainly to get a greater understanding of current politics in the world, the US deficit and the rise and fall of AU in the market.  Looking at things currently, I would believe us to be in a bull type market that may stay with us for a while as investors turn their profits over from the greed.  (Hey I tell it like it is ... and we ALL have a bit of it and we want to make more of it!)

My point in this conversation is that I found it very interesting on several points.

First point, I had no idea that the US sends it&#039;s DoD agents to protect the rest of the world&#039;s oil supply lines.  Typically as stated with the asian countries.  Is this to offset the prices that consumers&#039; pay for the products that are produced from the oil manufacturers in those countries?  I.E. - Computer screens (plastic components) coming from S. Korea?

The secod and last point or rather these are turning into questions, is my understanding of why other countries are buying up US debt so quickly.  It would seem that the US has always made the interest payments on that secured debt to it&#039;s holders.  So when China or Japan or whatever country comes into the US debt market, it is a sure paycheck.  The second idea behind hold this certificate of debt  (CDs) as I like to call them is if things became so unstable (not saying they are and I am NOT saying to overthrow the gov&#039;t) but those CDs could call Uncle Sugar out to change national and foreign policy to favor a new regime.  Now that is TOO scary if you ask me.  

Obviously, this is my take on things and it is a scary perspective to behold.  Comments are welcome to my thinking.

Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just surfed onto this website mainly to get a greater understanding of current politics in the world, the US deficit and the rise and fall of AU in the market.  Looking at things currently, I would believe us to be in a bull type market that may stay with us for a while as investors turn their profits over from the greed.  (Hey I tell it like it is &#8230; and we <span class="caps">ALL </span>have a bit of it and we want to make more of it!)</p>

<p>My point in this conversation is that I found it very interesting on several points.</p>

<p>First point, I had no idea that the US sends it&#8217;s DoD agents to protect the rest of the world&#8217;s oil supply lines.  Typically as stated with the asian countries.  Is this to offset the prices that consumers&#8217; pay for the products that are produced from the oil manufacturers in those countries?  <span class="caps">I.E. </span>- Computer screens (plastic components) coming from S. Korea?</p>

<p>The secod and last point or rather these are turning into questions, is my understanding of why other countries are buying up US debt so quickly.  It would seem that the US has always made the interest payments on that secured debt to it&#8217;s holders.  So when China or Japan or whatever country comes into the US debt market, it is a sure paycheck.  The second idea behind hold this certificate of debt  (CDs) as I like to call them is if things became so unstable (not saying they are and I am <span class="caps">NOT </span>saying to overthrow the gov&#8217;t) but those CDs could call Uncle Sugar out to change national and foreign policy to favor a new regime.  Now that is <span class="caps">TOO </span>scary if you ask me.  </p>

<p>Obviously, this is my take on things and it is a scary perspective to behold.  Comments are welcome to my thinking.</p>

<p>Thank you.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Registan.net</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2005/03/09/roks-oil-adventures/comment-page-1/#comment-1738</link>
		<dc:creator>Registan.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2005 21:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  which they lend their names and reputations. 	In other regional oil news, South Korea has signed a field exploration deal with Uzbekistan.  The South Koreans are bus [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  which they lend their names and reputations. 	In other regional oil news, South Korea has signed a field exploration deal with Uzbekistan.  The South Koreans are bus [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: ComingAnarchy.com  &#187; Blog Archive   &#187; Why do foreigners buy US debt?</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2005/03/09/roks-oil-adventures/comment-page-1/#comment-1729</link>
		<dc:creator>ComingAnarchy.com  &#187; Blog Archive   &#187; Why do foreigners buy US debt?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2005 16:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  	 	 		 			 Why do foreigners buy US debt? 						 			 					To avoid an off-topic smackdown in the comments section of the previous post, I&#8217;m posting my opinion  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  	 	 		 			 Why do foreigners buy US debt? 						 			 					To avoid an off-topic smackdown in the comments section of the previous post, I&#8217;m posting my opinion  [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Saru</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2005/03/09/roks-oil-adventures/comment-page-1/#comment-1727</link>
		<dc:creator>Saru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2005 15:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is not why they buy our bonds!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is not why they buy our bonds!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Curzon</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2005/03/09/roks-oil-adventures/comment-page-1/#comment-1725</link>
		<dc:creator>Curzon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2005 15:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EXACTLY: &lt;strong&gt;that&#039;s why they buy our bonds!&lt;/strong&gt;  

Major, major point of how the world at large works.  We spend more than we should or could, but bankers in Japan and China prop up our overspending on defense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="caps">EXACTLY</span>: <strong>that&#8217;s why they buy our bonds!</strong>  </p>

<p>Major, major point of how the world at large works.  We spend more than we should or could, but bankers in Japan and China prop up our overspending on defense.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dave Schuler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Schuler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2005 15:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While we&#039;re on the subject, who defends the sea lanes to keep China&#039;s, Japan&#039;s, and Korea&#039;s oil fixes coming? That would be Uncle Sugar and the American taxpayer, natch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While we&#8217;re on the subject, who defends the sea lanes to keep China&#8217;s, Japan&#8217;s, and Korea&#8217;s oil fixes coming? That would be Uncle Sugar and the American taxpayer, natch.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mutantfrog</title>
		<link>http://cominganarchy.com/2005/03/09/roks-oil-adventures/comment-page-1/#comment-1716</link>
		<dc:creator>Mutantfrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2005 04:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I don&#039;t have time tonight to gather the facts to back this up, but my guess would be that the reason is Japan&#039;s use of oil is relatively effecient by world standards. They have also moved away from oil-intensive heavy industry and shifted into less oil-intensive manufactures.&quot;

The level of industry in South Korea is very similar to Japan. They both have a few companies doing heavy industry like making automobiles, boats and so on, but more of the production is stuff like cell phones and other electronics. I believe almost 100% of the world&#039;s LCD screens are currently manufactured in South Korea.

It&#039;s also worth considering that while it may be inefficient for South Korea to import oil from Uzbekistan, it is extremely efficient for say, a sub division of Hyundai or Samsung to manage the business of trading said oil and take a cut of the profits in exchange for providing equipment and engineering resources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t have time tonight to gather the facts to back this up, but my guess would be that the reason is Japan&#8217;s use of oil is relatively effecient by world standards. They have also moved away from oil-intensive heavy industry and shifted into less oil-intensive manufactures.&#8221;</p>

<p>The level of industry in South Korea is very similar to Japan. They both have a few companies doing heavy industry like making automobiles, boats and so on, but more of the production is stuff like cell phones and other electronics. I believe almost 100% of the world&#8217;s <span class="caps">LCD </span>screens are currently manufactured in South Korea.</p>

<p>It&#8217;s also worth considering that while it may be inefficient for South Korea to import oil from Uzbekistan, it is extremely efficient for say, a sub division of Hyundai or Samsung to manage the business of trading said oil and take a cut of the profits in exchange for providing equipment and engineering resources.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Saru</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2005 03:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you didn&#039;t see it already, you may want to check out &quot;The Shocks of 2005&quot; from the Economist&#039;s _The World in 2005_.  Measured by a combination of oil intensity and oil dependence, South Korea ranked number three out of 65 countries surveyed. Pakistan and the Philippines were numbers one and two, but Japan didn&#039;t even make the top ten. 

I don&#039;t have time tonight to gather the facts to back this up, but my guess would be that the reason is Japan&#039;s use of oil is relatively effecient by world standards. They have also moved away from oil-intensive heavy industry and shifted into less oil-intensive manufactures. I think they also maintain rather high reserves that should cushion any price shocks, at least in the short-term. (Finally, if one wants to be cynical about it, some might say they&#039;ve been rather good at kissing Middle Eastern asses.) They were burned rather badly as a result of the first oil crisis (which was a main factor in ending the era of high growth), but seemed to learn rather quickly. I unfortunately don&#039;t have a link to this (mail me if you want the data set in excel format), but you can check the year on year GDP growth for Japan and see that immediately following the first oil shock, there was a substantial decline (maybe around 7%?), but a much lower decline following the second one in 1979 (maybe 2%?). 

No doubt higher oil prices would impact Japan&#039;s economy, especially given the weakness in the current recovery evident in the February revisions of 2004 GDP data, but Japan probably deserves some credit, as do most OECD countries for reducing their oil dependency (at least in terms of barrels per dollar of GDP). I guess the point here is to keep in mind that import-dependence doesn&#039;t always equate to high overall dependence. 

Incidentally, the ROK didn&#039;t join OECD until 1996 (and the obligatory removal of controls on the capital account that were implemented to join are often cited as coming about too early and contributing to the crisis the following year.) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you didn&#8217;t see it already, you may want to check out &#8220;The Shocks of 2005&#8243; from the Economist&#8217;s <em>The World in 2005</em>.  Measured by a combination of oil intensity and oil dependence, South Korea ranked number three out of 65 countries surveyed. Pakistan and the Philippines were numbers one and two, but Japan didn&#8217;t even make the top ten. </p>

<p>I don&#8217;t have time tonight to gather the facts to back this up, but my guess would be that the reason is Japan&#8217;s use of oil is relatively effecient by world standards. They have also moved away from oil-intensive heavy industry and shifted into less oil-intensive manufactures. I think they also maintain rather high reserves that should cushion any price shocks, at least in the short-term. (Finally, if one wants to be cynical about it, some might say they&#8217;ve been rather good at kissing Middle Eastern asses.) They were burned rather badly as a result of the first oil crisis (which was a main factor in ending the era of high growth), but seemed to learn rather quickly. I unfortunately don&#8217;t have a link to this (mail me if you want the data set in excel format), but you can check the year on year <span class="caps">GDP </span>growth for Japan and see that immediately following the first oil shock, there was a substantial decline (maybe around 7%?), but a much lower decline following the second one in 1979 (maybe 2%?). </p>

<p>No doubt higher oil prices would impact Japan&#8217;s economy, especially given the weakness in the current recovery evident in the February revisions of 2004 <span class="caps">GDP </span>data, but Japan probably deserves some credit, as do most <span class="caps">OECD </span>countries for reducing their oil dependency (at least in terms of barrels per dollar of <span class="caps">GDP</span>). I guess the point here is to keep in mind that import-dependence doesn&#8217;t always equate to high overall dependence. </p>

<p>Incidentally, the <span class="caps">ROK </span>didn&#8217;t join <span class="caps">OECD </span>until 1996 (and the obligatory removal of controls on the capital account that were implemented to join are often cited as coming about too early and contributing to the crisis the following year.)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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